Ae of Tryphon, Macedonian Helmet With Ibex Horn

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by John Anthony, Mar 3, 2016.

  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Diodotus Tryphon was a Seleucid usurper who managed to hang on to his throne for a good four years. There is a coin type unique to his rule, and this is the first example I've handled, so I'd like to share it. The reverse depicts the national helmet of Greco-Macedonian soldiery, with cheek flaps, adorned with an ibex horn. The design also comes in tetradrachm versions.

    I'm not sure the ibex horn would have been of much use in battle, so perhaps what we're seeing here is a ceremonial helmet - perhaps only for those of high rank? Tryphon also took the title AYTOKPATOP (the Greek equivalent of the Latin Imperator), which is the only time the word occurs on Seleucid issues.

    tryphon 6.jpg
     
    randygeki, Okidoki, TJC and 13 others like this.
  2. Avatar

    Guest User Guest



    to hide this ad.
  3. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Mine is similar with a smaller helmet making room for a larger finial.
    g02330bb2012.jpg

    I'd need to research it more but equating AYTOKPATOP with IMPERATOR does not strike me. Auto means self and krator means ruler so autokrator would be the term for a top level, answers to no one, ruler - a self made man responsible for his own position. This would be most appropriate for a usurper who defeated a hereditary king. Imperator was awarded to generals who achieved success but who still answered to the state or emperor (then called Augustus). Yes, we get the word emperor from imperator but the original meaning of that word was closer to generalissimo.

    Should we note that portraits of this ruler show hair uncombed or, perhaps, 'helmet head'.
     
    randygeki, chrsmat71, Okidoki and 6 others like this.
  5. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Good points. Yes, helmet head! It makes perfect sense. I'm quoting Varbanov in the translation of AYTOKPATOP to Imperator, but your analysis makes much more sense. Leave it be as a Greek word and never mind the translation.
     
  6. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    Seleukid Kings. Diodotus Typhon AE 18.jpg
    My coin of this type. Appreciate the info from JA.
     
    randygeki, chrsmat71, Okidoki and 8 others like this.
  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Is this what you mean by an Ibex Horned Helmet???

    upload_2016-3-3_17-20-32.png upload_2016-3-3_17-21-34.png

    Kinda like the world's best movie: TIME BANDITS???
     
    Last edited: Mar 3, 2016
    randygeki, chrsmat71, Okidoki and 5 others like this.
  8. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Here are a couple of Tryphon weighing 6 g. and 5 g. DiodTryp O 001.jpg DiodTr R 001.jpg
     
    randygeki, chrsmat71, Okidoki and 6 others like this.
  9. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page