Fake $10 in real ngc holder

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  1. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    OK 'witten, why the alarm and what sends up smoke signals?
     
  4. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    That is not a real NGC holder . . . it is a rather good fake.

    - Mike
     
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  5. Aidan_()

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  6. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Coin is way off, holder is pretty good. The ngc info says to contact them, meaning they know there are fakes using that number.
     
  7. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I see that they received positive feedback for a 10g Perth Mint gold bar that they sold for $152. Hmm.
     
  8. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Looking at the year on the label "1902" - in particular the distance between the 1, 9 and 0 seems to be different. The font used for the cert no. doesn't match either... the holder would have tricked me though, at least from the pics.
     
  9. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I already alerted NGC.
     
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  10. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    The holder would have tricked me too, and the first picture was the only giveaway for me that the coin was fake. The others were too blurry to tell. I have an 8% ebay bucks right now, so was looking for some decent coins to pick up near melt, and stumbled upon this one.
     
  11. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    This is a pretty good fake, considering they managed to fake the cert number.
     
  12. Yankee42

    Yankee42 Well-Known Member

    Reported. Doesn't match the real picture on NGCs website, looks counterfeit, and the label is obviously off.
     
  13. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    They didn't "manage to fake the cert number" but simply copied it from a known coin. Anyone at any time can gain access to countless thousands of them online.
     
  14. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I just wish I could slap the teeth out of the seller's mouth.
     
  15. KSorbo

    KSorbo Well-Known Member

    Is there too much clear plastic around the edge of the holder?

    Apart from that the coin looks horrendous even for a 61.

    I like the seller's statement that he inherited the coin and therefore can afford to sell below spot.
     
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  16. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    Wow. That would fool a lot of people. I don't know if I would've questioned it or not. Obvious now, but that's a fairly decent NGC slab copy.
     
  17. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    The seller has only a few transactions and, according to his reviews, has screwed one of three buyers. The other two probably didn't know better.

    Why would anyone even consider buying a $10 gold coin from somebody like that?
     
  18. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    Compare the bar codes on the ebay listing to the real one. They didn't even try to make them match.
     
  19. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I'd say the numerals are formed differently .
     
  20. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Because every once in a while, it works out. And when it doesn't, eBay Buyer Protection has your back.

    Or, perhaps more likely, because they're extremely naive.
     
  21. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

    Hopefully Bubba will in the penitentiary
     
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