65 Kennedy Mint or PMD?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by TJ1952, Feb 29, 2016.

  1. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    I recently spotted this in one of my books that I've had for years but never noticed it before. Your thoughts?

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  3. cpm9ball

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    It looks like PMD to me. If it were a clip, it would have a cleaner cut. This looks like it was pinched with some tool.

    Chris
     
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  4. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    It looks like a clipped planchet to me. It's too small of a clip to produce much of a Blakesley effect. Although your's may have a touch of it, it's hard to tell from your photo's. Take a close up of the opposite rim from the clip.

    Based on the appearance of what I can see here, it looks like it could be a legitimate clip and not PMD. Look at the way the "I" flows out and the relief gradually gets lower towards the edge of the clip. PMD would more than likely leave more of the relief in the "I" at the edge.
     
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  5. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Yes, to me it looked like the machine "tried" to clip it but it only caught enough of the coin to pinch it. Let me get a close-up shot of the opposite sides, stby....
     
  6. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    @jtlee321 - You might be right. There's something happening on the opposite side of the Obv. The Rev. looks pretty normal and the reeded edge looks normal. Check it out.

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  7. Lon Chaney

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  8. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Really? You never noticed that at all? wow
     
  9. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I'm with Paddy. PMD to me but I can't believe you just noticed it. When was the last time you looked at it? Open those eyes. :wideyed:
     
  10. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    @paddyman98 / @Collecting Nut -

    I can see both your points.

    When I first started collecting many many years ago as a kid, I was strictly looking for dates to fill the books, that was it. I remember saving 50 "unwanted" penny's or my paper route money, getting on my bike and riding 4 or 5 miles to the nearest bank to get as many Kennedy's as I could.

    There's no doubt, I got this 1965 from a teller years ago. It was a weekend tradition (as weird as it sounds) I looked forward to. This started in 1964 as you probably already know. Years after that when I graduated HS, went it the military and moved away, the collection stayed at my parents house. The collection sat idle for many years, more like decades without out any activity. I was just to busy with family and working on my career. I only recently started getting back into it.

    Fortunately or unfortunately (not sure which) it's just a hobby from where I sit. I'm not an investor or dealer. If I had to make a living at coin collection I would starve.

    But you're right, I'm looking more closely these days. Maybe I'll find that golden nugget!
     
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  11. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I'm in at 98% positive it's a clipped planchet. The rims on the exact opposite side show weakness as would be expected. The rims are slightly wider and less pronounced because the planchet did not receive full pressure from the upsetting machine due to the missing metal at the clip. It's a keeper...

    It's a minor clip maybe 3% - 5%.
     
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  12. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for your detailed explanation and reality check!
     
  13. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    To determine the "clip" percentage, weigh the coin then divide the US Mint weight by the coins weight.

    I expect that it will be less than 1%. Probably .05%
     
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