Cadeuceus and hands

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by dougsmit, Feb 21, 2016.

  1. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Recently we had a thread on fighter hands but this is to show friendly ones. The first coin is the last of my newps from the Robinson sale and probably the least desirable to most eyes since the coin is darkly toned/patinated or whatever you want to call a silver that looks like it really is 2000 years old.

    Vespasian, AR denarius 73 AD, Rome, FIDES PVBL
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    Two hands hold a cadeuceus with wings, poppies and branches. I suppose the coin could be cleaned to make it the shiny silver now in fad and I certainly have many coins of that shine but one needs some more natural oldies.

    Feel free to post friendly hands.
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I like that coins scruffy look.

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    Crispina (178 - 182 A.D.)
    AR Denarius
    O: CRISPINA AVG, draped bust right.
    R: CONCORDIA, clasped hands.
    2.7g
    18mm
    RIC 279 (Commodus); BMCRE 29 (Commodus); RSC 9
     
  4. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Lovely coin. The only thing that I have that comes close is:-

    Antoninus Pius, Denarius
    Obv: ANTONINVS AVG PIVS P P, laureate head right
    Rev: TR POT COS II, clasped hands holding caduceus and grain-ears.
    Minted in Rome. A.D. 138-139
    Reference:– BMC 112. RIC III 54b. RSC 873

    3.40g, 18.16mm, 180o

    Looks like it was once holed for suspension.

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  5. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Not hands only, but friendly.

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    Trajan Decius (249 - 251 A.D.)
    AR Antoninianus
    O: IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG; radiate, draped & cuirassed bust right.
    R: PANNONIAE; the two Pannoniae, veiled, standing right and left facing one another, clasping right hands in front of standard between them.
    Rome Mint, 251 A.D.
    22mm
    3.2g
    RIC IV Rome 26
     
  6. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    It seems I only have 'striking hands' and none in friendship...

    But I love the posts!!!!
     
  7. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Here's a Roman Republican denarius with friendly hands holding a caduceus, which was issued in 48 BC by the moneyer D. Junius Brutus Albinus.
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    AR denarius 3.55 gm - 19 mm
    Obv: Head of Pietas right
    Rev: ALBINVS BRVTI F, clasped hands holding winged caduceus
    Ref: Cr. 450/2, Syd 942, Junia 25; Postumia 10
     
  8. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I haven't seen this one in years. I wonder if I still have it.

    Gallienus Antoninianus

    Obv:– IMP C P LIC GALLIENVS AVG, Radiate, draped cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– CONCORDIA AVGG, Clasped hands
    Minted in Rome. A.D. 253
    Reference:– RIC 131, RSC 125. Gobl 13t

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  9. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    The hands on the OP coin are much more realistic than most other Roman "clasped hands". The poppies are a bonus. Great coin!
     
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  10. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

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    Great coins all:facepalm: my clasped hands Commodus
     
  11. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I couldn't agree more....

    As usual, 'great eyes' Doug!!! Congrats!!!!
     
  12. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Lovely coins one and all! I might have an ant of Marius lying around.

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  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Mmmmm... Marius... Yummmmmyyy...
     
  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Modern handshake protocol involves wrapping the four fingers around the other hand 'grip and grin'. So far all we have seen show straight out fingers without risking being accused of being a limp handshaker or trying to inflict pain. I'd also be interested in seeing and ancient 'high five' or 'fist bump' coins but I doubt they exist.

    Vitellius
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    Nerva as - no poppies but add a prow
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    Antoninus Pius
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    Herennius Etruscus
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    Who has the Balbinus, Pupienus?
     
  15. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Nice, and friendly, thread !

    I have a few to show too

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    Albinus Bruti F., Denarius Rome mint, 48 BC
    PIETAS, head of Pietas right
    ALBINVS BRVTI F, clasped hands holding winged caduceus
    3.83 gr
    Ref : HCRI # 26, RCV # 427, RSC, Postumia # 10


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    Balbinus, Antoninianus struck in Rome in 238 AD
    IMP CAES D CAEL BALBINVS AVG, Draped and radiate bust of Balbinus right
    PIETAS MVTVA AVGG, Clasped hands
    4.23 gr
    Ref : RCV #8486, Cohen #17


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    Pupienus, Antoninianus struck in Rome in 238 AD
    IMP CAES PVPIEN MAXIMVS AVG, Draped and radiate bust of Pupienus right
    PATRES SENATVS, Clasped hands
    4.91 gr
    Ref : RCV #8522 var., Cohen #21

    Q
     
  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    All I'm missing seeing from this page now is the Civil War type with hands on both sides.
     
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  17. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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    D. JUNIUS ALBINUS; GENS POSTUMIA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Hd of pietas r; PIETAS
    REVERSE: Clasped hands on caduceus; ALBINVS BRVTI.F
    Rome 48 BC
    3.91g. 19mm
    Syd 942
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    AUGUSTUS
    AE Quadran
    OBVERSE: LAMIA SILIVS ANNIVS, clasped hands holding caduceus
    REVERSE: III VIR A A A F F around large S C
    Rome 9 BC
    3.0g, 15mm
    RIC 420, BMC 200, S 1693
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    NERVA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: IMP NERVA CAES AVG P M TR P COS II P P, laureate head right
    REVERSE: CONCORDIA EXCERCITVVM, clasped hands holding legionary eagle resting on prow
    Struck at Rome 96 AD
    2.9g, 18mm
    RIC 3
     
  18. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Hers mine, rare, but ugly.

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    IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG P M T P P P COS III, bust laureate r. resting on globe and with aegis on shoulder

    FIDES EXERCITVVM, S C in ex. , clasped hands before legionary eagle on prow.
     
  19. Joe LeMay

    Joe LeMay Active Member

    Here's mine:
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    Augustus
    27 B.C. - 14 A.D.
    Æ Quadrans, Clasped hands holding caduceus
    3.18 gm, 15.5 mm
    LAMIA SILVS ANNIVS (moneyers)
    III VIR AAAFF
    around large SC
    RIC I 420; RCV 1693
    BMCRE 200 = BMCRR Rome 4617; BN 568-78
    Rome mint. Struck 9 B.C.
     
  20. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I like this coin because of the ironic legend, FIDES MVTVA AVGG. Mutual faith between Balbinus and Pupienus was as unlikely as a friendly handshake.

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  21. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    That's a great coin Doug. The type of coin I would leave 'as is'.

    This is probably my favourite 'hands' denarius I have, the Titus Caesar version of your Vespasian type.

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    Titus as Caesar
    AR Denarius
    Rome Mint, 73 AD
    RIC V528 (R), BMC V91a, RSC 87b
    Obv: T CAES IMP VESP PON TR POT CENS; Head of Titus, laureate, bearded, r.
    Rev: FIDES PVBL; Hands clasped over caduceus, two poppies and two corn-ears
     
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