IS THIS COIN DOUBLE DIE

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Larry Salemme, Feb 21, 2016.

  1. Larry Salemme

    Larry Salemme Active Member

    Hi, I am trying to figure out if this coin is considered double die, the shot is very blurry but I am new at this, so please any feedback would be very appreciated. Thank You!
     

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  3. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    CAN'T TELL FROM THAT PICTURE!
     
  4. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    Wow, that is way to blurry to tell. It looks like it may be off center or misaligned dies, but really need better pictures to say anything for sure.
     
  5. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    Was the camera you used built in 1894?
     
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  6. Larry Salemme

    Larry Salemme Active Member

    Probably as old as the coin, my son will take better pictures, sorry once again, I will take pic with I pad next time, I am a new fish.
     
  7. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I'm seeing lots of doubling....oh wait, that's just the picture :)
    Def use the ipad and use macro mode. Super macro if you have it.
     
  8. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Welcome to the forum.

    That picture is about what I see when I take off my glasses. Your camera may need corrective lenses? ;)
     
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  9. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    also, it is a doubleD die.
     
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  10. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Not Double but Doubled Die.. there is a difference
    Quote - "Note that the proper terminology for this occurrence includes the letter 'd' at the end of the first word, hence "doubled die". The term "double die" without the first word ending in 'd' is not proper numismatic terminology." closed quote
    I want to share this website with you - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doubled_die
     
  11. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Be sure to get a shot of the reverse too.
     
  12. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    He's trying to learn. Why don't you give him your camera?

    Chris
     
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  13. Larry Salemme

    Larry Salemme Active Member

    Hi, Thanks everybody for your replies, here are some better pics!
     

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  14. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    It's most certainly not the "big one", Larry.... but there is at least one other DDO known for the date/mint, so you may want to look into it, serious long shot or not. You've nothing to lose, and worst case will gain a little experience in trying.

    Welcome to the forum, sir.
     
  15. Amos 811

    Amos 811 DisMember

    not every 1969s is a double die.....lol. This is an example of the furthest from a doubled die that exists.
     
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  17. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    I honestly couldn't pass judgement beyond a reasonable doubt and don't know how anone else could either. Nearly every letter on the obverse, if blown up ten to fifty times, appears to have split serifs, but they are so blurry, that appearance could be from dirt. One thing for sure, it is a floating roof veriety with a very very weak FG, but have no idea if that die is paired with the known doubled dies. Maybe your research could tell you that.
     
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  18. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    If speaking only of DDO-001, it's fairly easy to "pass judgment beyond a reasonable doubt" as the provided photos are more than sufficient to allow doing so, but to limit possibilities to this one variety is indeed folly. All too often in threads regarding the 69-S, certain individuals simply dismiss any coin that is not of the aforementioned variety, and in doing so do a disservice not to the person asking the question, but to the board as a whole. As mentioned earlier, there are other DDOs known for the date/mint, so as a starting point, the OP may wish to check here....

    http://doubleddie.com/314201.html

    http://coppercoins.com/lincoln/diestate.php?date=1969&die_id=1969s1do002&die_state=mds

    http://coppercoins.com/lincoln/diestate.php?date=1969&die_id=1969s1do003&die_state=mds

    And this, of course, does not take into account that there's always a possibility of an yet to be identified variety. I certainly am not trying to say it is or is not one of the other varieties, or any variety for that matter; truth be told I haven't bothered to look that closely. I will say, though, that I can promise that his coin displays no split serifs.
     
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  19. mac266

    mac266 Well-Known Member

    OP, the improved pics still aren't zoomed in enough to really tell. The best bet you have is looking through your loupe. Of course, you can't really get our opinions doing that.

    I'm going to assume you don't have any photography equipment designed for numismatics. The next best bet is to put your loupe in front of the camera lens. It's not the best, but it does work. Wizard Coin Supply also sells an attachment that is a lens add-on for a smart phone camera. They're about $30 if memory serves.
     
  20. mac266

    mac266 Well-Known Member

    Having made my point above, I'm taking another stab at the doubled die question. I'm leaning towards no; however, it seems to me your best chance is in the word, "Liberty."
     
  21. Larry Salemme

    Larry Salemme Active Member

     
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