1805 quarter eagle

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Coin doctors... scourge of the hobby.

'dude

 

Here's my 1806 HE for example. It was in an NGC AU-55 holder when I purchased it, now it's in a PCGS AU-50 holder, which I think is more appropriate at grade. That 1805 QE should have no problem getting into an AU-50 holder.



I suppose some folk would love to give this coin a bath to "enhance" it... Not going to happen.

That said, is the 1805 QE for sale? Who is the dealer offering it?

'dude

 

There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING wrong with the coin in the OP. Anyone talking about conservation needs to re-examine the coin. A bit of dirt, a bit of color, a bit of skin - these are fantastic things for this coin. So what if it has a slightly darker spot? The coin is original, and beautiful. Conserving it, even if done properly, will not help, and will probably leave a stripped out husk of its former self.

The coin is very nice. I'd buy it, if it were something I was interested in.

 

As much as I l;ike to play around trying to get a higher grade, that is probably the last coin that I would try to improve. It's got the look already.

 

Oh! AU55 if there's nothing wrong with it.

 

Furthermore Dude,

So many SAVY collectors/dealers LOVE DIRTY COINS that NCS went out of business years ago

 

That's good to know...at least you will not ruin it!

 

Ignorance even bigger scourge, Dude

 

Absolutely! Your coin would look much better w/o all the "eye-catching" black dirt that detracts from its beauty.

 

Ditto your comments: Leave skin, leave color, REMOVE DIRT!

 

You get my respect; however, the OP coin would look much better than the unattractive, heavily stained 1805 if ONLY the dirt were removed.

 

Furthermore Insider,
Your platform of ignorance is exactly why there is a lot of lifeless dreck sitting in stale holders these days.

'dude

 

Hey, you know what happens to coins when they circulate? They get dirty.

That's how it is supposed to look.

 

I'm gonna to use this one for a teaching moment.

The surface of a coin under dirt/crud patinates at a different rate than the exposed surfaces, if at all. Gold as a noble metal is less susceptible to corrosion than others, but the point stands that if you remove the dirt, the underlying surfaces will be of a different patination than the rest and the coin will clearly look cleaned. You'll then have to also remove the patination to regularize the surfaces, leaving a circulated coin obviously too "clean" looking to be original.

 

Yes - dirt does happen to raise eye appeal... particularly with circulated gold.

Here's another one from the SDP that would most likely make some people shudder... ewwww!


And a more recent photo of the coin -


Insider seems to really sing NCS' praises, and I will say that NCS does provide a valuable service, but only to an extent. They are good at removing unsightly residue, putty, excessive dirt (such as from a metal-detected coin) and other seriously detracting substances. To imply that any gold coin with minimal dirt on it should be "conserved" is simply wrong... dare I say ignorant. There were very many gold coins recovered from several shipwrecks over the last 10-15 years... nearly all were conserved, and it was probably a good thing there were so many to work on, as the conservators perfected their cocktails. Many of those recovered shipwreck coins look great, as they were otherwise MS coins... but some of them ended up looking so bland, so devoid of skin and character, they're just unattractive. As some posters like to incorporate grade school barfing emoticons, I'll go as far to say that nearly every single circulated silver shipwreck coin that's been NCS'd has made me want to do just that. I've had personal experience with NCS. An 1857-S $3 gold which I purchased raw. it had some residue in the upper-right obverse, but was otherwise a very attractive, original coin. I sent it in to NGC for grading, but they recommended conservation to remove the residue. I agreed and paid for the additional service. When I received the coin, it was in an AU-53 holder, the small area of residue was gone, but the coin was also completely devoid of its original patina and skin -- stripped... totally bland. I got rid of it as soon as I could. Never again..., but hey, I'm just a novice collector... what do I know?

'dude

 

There are always new buyers coming into the market that think white and clean like a 2015 S Silver Proof Half Dollar is what is beautiful. They have that right and it really is beautiful to them. I even get like that on occasion.
The original surface coins just get scarcer and scarcer.

I have been involved in coins for almost 50 years. I've played around removing residue and dirt. I figure I ruin about half that I attempt to improve right now. The ratio was higher earlier.

 

The only reason to shudder about that coin, C'Dude, is because it isn't mine!

Gorgeous.

 

Good Morning Dude!

Ya got me! Yes, I confess to "blowing-up" a few coins in my time; however, I'm not one of the ignorant collectors/dealers who turn coins to "dreck." Some coins should not be touched. Do you know the difference? I do!

 

Well, You just dropped down a notch It does not matter because you were already at the TOP of my favorite informed posters.

Ever hear of NCS and all their ignorant customers including big dealers/auction companies that like "dirty" coins because the bring much more money!