1788 Massachusetts Common Wealth Coin

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  1. kyle_rh

    kyle_rh New Member

    Hello I recently came across a 1788 Massachusetts Common Wealth coin and was wondering about authenticity and value of the coin. I have attached photos of the coin. Any help or information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
     

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  3. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Welcome to the forum Kyle! I read something about these in Coin World magazine this month, July 2010 but I don't think it shows a coin like yours. Maybe someone else will chime in who knows more but I can tell you that there have been alot of fantasy pieces made from that time frame. I don't know if yours is a fantasy piece or not but it looks really nice!!

    I'm back, I looked around on google for a minute and I found a link for ya. The coins in the link look a bit different than yours. I suggest you look around on google images for awhile and see if you can find your coin. good luck

    http://cvmcolonials.com/CVMColonials05.htm
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    welcome to the forum, and yup---

    fake.
     
  5. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    Yes, unfortunately it is a fake. There are so many copies of early American coins around, they definitely out number the genuine pieces!
     
  6. K9coper

    K9coper Junior Member

    fake and also not a very good one.
     
  7. kyle_rh

    kyle_rh New Member

    yeah i thought it was fake but I wanted to get another opinion on it. A few things led me to believe it was fake such as the san serif lettering, the real ones are serif lettering. Another thing that led me to believe it was fake is the weight of the coin, the real coins are solid copper, this one appears to be aluminum coated with copper.
     
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  9. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Kyle,
    Completely out of my league but this will bump you up the forum! ;)
     
  10. climinguy71

    climinguy71 New Member

    I found a coin just like yours.i was wondering how to tell if its a fake?I saw on another site that these are worth around $3000.00
     
  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Yes it is also a fake. I don't know what it sold for, but if it even sold for the opening bid it was because whoever bought it didn't know what he was buying and almost certainly thought it was real.
     
  12. nerarities

    nerarities New Member

    The picture posted is of a lower end copy of the Massachusetts Cents from 1787. Someone asked how to tell a fake from a real. There are some very deceiving copies out there, but this one is a bit easier to tell the difference. Attached is a photograph of an authentic MA Cent in high grade. The most obvious differences are in the crispness and "non crude-like" legends and date. Look at the Ms of COMMON on the Indian side for example. They are very different. Also, compare the 178 of the dates to see some major differences. Lastly, and the easiest observation in this comparison is that all authentic Massachusetts cents have a star between the bow and the Indian's head. Hope this helps.
     

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  13. coin0709

    coin0709 CT Supporter

    Hello and thanks for this older post. Very informative. I have acquired a potentially rare 1787 Mass Cent (28.0 mm, 10.9 g) with the arrows in the right talon. For obvious reasons I am skeptical, but I have not been able to find any images of fakes of this extremely rare variety. All help welcome. Thanks.
     

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  14. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    Sorry to say it is a fake. Looks like a cast piece, it is also too heavy.
     
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  15. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    guaranteed fake
     
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  16. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Cast copy. I've seen quite a few of these
     
  17. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    image.jpeg image.jpeg Here's a real one
     
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    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

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  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    But of a totally different variety.

    Doesn't matter, the coin in question is a fake. Looks like a casting sprue above and to the right of the indian's head.
     
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