Nice coin, BUT.................

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  1. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

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  3. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    uneducated guess MS64Red
     
  4. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Is the hologram on the back of the slab a square or rectangle. That would tell me who the graders might be. Slabs from the CO company had rectangles.
     
  5. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    ??? Reason why it's EF , and why details . I'm learning ;)
     
  6. Santinidollar

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    Just a guess. Red MS64
     
  7. Santinidollar

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    Huh?
     
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  8. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Disregard this grading opinion. It will only confuse you.
     
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  9. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Not that there is a right or wrong answer, but here is the slab. When I first looked at ti, I thought they blew it, but the more I looked, the more I thought they at least came close. The is an MS65/66 coin with what I think is a nasty fingerprint. I am pretty sure it was there when graded but probably not as bad.

    1932- 64 6 PCI So.JPG 1932- 64 6 PCI Sr.JPG
     
  10. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    I have never saved 1c coins after 1909, except for Indian Head cents. I'm not real familiar with this series, but regardless of their grade you posted, I would still say AU58 - MS62.
     
  11. Insider

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    DAH..:confused::arghh::eggface: What part of "It's in an old PCI slab did I not read?

    sorry:shame:

    After seeing the slab, IMO PCI got it right and my guess that a TPGS would 65 the coin was incorrect. Now, almost 25 years have passed since that coin was graded. With the looser standards of today, IMO, the MS-65 guys might have a shot. Nevertheless, personally I'm still stuck at MS-63. Not that it matters what I think.:bigtears:
     
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  12. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Where is the fingerprint? I don't see it in any of your pics (and usually, I am highly sensitive to fingerprints).

    In my opinion, any fingerprint at all automatically limits the grade to 65 (although the TPGs disagree with me). A "nasty" fingerprint would limit the grade to 64, or worse.
     
  13. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    If you look at the OP, all those spots actually roughly form a fingerprint. Maybe I am reading more into it than there is, but that is my best guess. For some reason, they do not show well on pictures.
     
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  14. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Are the nasty spots that you show in the OP on the photo of the coin in the slab? Did they get worse over time. That slab is about 25 years old.
     
  15. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    On the coin for sure.
    Guessing yes, but I don't know for sure since they do not always show in pictures.
     
  16. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    It has the same affect on the grade as a print BUT it is too spread out IMO. Only possibility for print is if the person assembling the insert PUSHED down on the coin to get it in; However, if that were the case it should show more "ridges." Looks more like "flyspec ED".
     
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