An interesting threesome of Caracalla

A request came today with a 18th Cent bust of Caracalla for younger and older portraits on coins


Posted as I thought maybe someone would like to see the two Sestertius

Jeff

 

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The top coin looks like he put on a little weight. :>)

 

I'd hardly call that a younger one but it is a great coin. The top one is good GERM style. For some reason I always liked the BRIT coins better because they showed Caracalla at his nastiest around the time of Geta's death. I don't have a high grade bronze to make the point but a sestertius like the denarius below would be a real addition to any collection.

This one would do nicely but I'd like that type in VG.
http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=566623

 

I have a couple of very young busts...

 

Young would be Caesar:

 

A little older with 'stach and sideburns.

 

Ken's Caracalla reminds me that many new collectors have trouble separating coins of Caracalla from those of Elagabalus. His is, of course, 100% correct but if anyone here has hesitation in making this call, I have a page:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/car-elag.html

It was one of my earlier 'educational' pages written in reaction to the number of coins I was seeing offered for sale misidentified. Hardest for many people are the fourth from the left below.
Six Coins of Caracalla

Rules 1, 3 Rules 1, 4, 5 Rules 1, 3 Rule 3 Rules 1, 2, 3 Rules 1, 2, 3
Eastern mint Rome mint


Six Coins of Elagabalus

Rules 3, 5 Rule 3 Rules 3, 5 Rules 3, 5 Rule 2, 5 Rules 3, 5
Eastern mint Rome mint

Copying the chart lost formatting so the above makes more sense on my page than here.

 

One of my remaining Imperials is a young Caracalla. I always loved Dea Caelestis on the lion on this coin.

Caracalla. AD 198-217. AR Denarius (20mm, 3.21 g). Struck AD 204. Laureate and draped bust right seen from behind / The Dea Caelestis, with elaborate headdress, riding right on lion, holding thunderbolt and sceptre; below, water gushing from rocks left. RIC IV 130a var. (Dea Caelestis facing right); BMCRE 280 var. (same); RSC 97 var. (same).

 

Absolutely wonderful posts and at least one I can't recall ever seeing before (@Carthago).

And Doug's info is always appreciated.....as I seem to need constant reminders in my 'old age'

 

If you happen across a lion rider with a drum instead of a thunderbolt, they are a scarce variation. I have a denarius with Septimius but only this 'Cast in Gaul' as for Caracalla.

 

Here's my favorite Caracalla in my collection.

Caracalla. AD 198-217. AR Denarius 19.5mm, 3.3 g. Rome mint. 201 / 202 AD.
O: ANTONINVS PIVS AVG, Laureate and draped beardless young bust right
R: PART MAX PM TR P X, trophy; at base, bound captive seated at either side.
- RIC 322

A rare mule with a reverse meant for Septimius Severus.

The workmen can be excused for mixing up the dies, because in 201-202 exactly the same PART MAX Trophy type was being struck for both emperors, distinguished only by their titles in the continuation of the rev. legend, so easy to confuse:

PART MAX P M TR P VIIII or X or X COS III P P for Septimius,

PART MAX PONT TR P IIII or V or V COS for Caracalla.

Two others from the same rev. die, but different obv. dies: RIC 322 = BMC p. 385, 163, pl. 64.13; and CClay collection from eBay, Jan. 2007.

Another is reported by Cohen 174 (10 francs) from the Turin collection; and there were two more in the Reka Devnia hoard.

 

I have a pet theory that this entire issue of asses was cast. See if you can find a struck example.

 

http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2520961

Certainly all on acsearch looked cast except for the above.

 

Also, it seems to me that more of the Cast in Gaul coins seem to be 'better' reverses. ...or is it that I bought cheaper CIG examples of better types and full service coins of common types?

 

I have two Caracalla coins:
(1) CARACALLA RIC Rome 22A (corr.) and
(2) Caracalla Denarius Sol Globus Oriens 2,75 g - 18 mm

 

Sorry, I was forgetting my Provincial
Caracalla Provincial Ancient Roman coin

 

CARACALLA
AE23
OBVERSE: Radiate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind
REVERSE: NIKOMHDEΩN ΔIC NEΩKOPΩN, Tyche standing left, holding rudder and cornucopia
Struck at BITHYNIA, Nicomedia, 198-217 AD
7.1g, 23mm
RG 234; WADD RG S546,234(1-3)

 

Here are mine:

Caracalla, AD 198-217
AR denarius, 3.01g, 20mm, 6h; Rome mint, AD 210-213.
Obv.: ANTONINVS PIVS AVG BRIT; laureate head right.
Rev.: MONETA AVG; Moneta standing left, holding scales and cornucopia.


Caracalla, AD 198-217
AE27, 14.5g, 12h; Caesarea Cappadocia, year 13 (of the rule of Septimius Severus), AD 204/5.
Obv.: AY KAI M AYP ANTΩNINOC; Laureate head right.
Rev.: MHTPOΠ KAICAPEI; Agalma of Mt. Argaeus, star over summit // ETIΓ (year 13)


Marcianopolis, Caracalla, AD 198-217
AE27, 10.2g, 6h.
Obv.: ΠIOC AVΓ ANTΩNINOC; Laureate head right, seen from behind.
Rev.: YΠ KYNTIΛIANOY MAPKIANOΠOΛITΩN (Quintillianus magistrate); Eagle standing left on globe, head right, holding wreath.

 

you had me at "interesting threesome".

here a Caracalla from thrace I rarely post, somewhat younger...kind of hard to tell.