1921-d Morgan ms64 (Toned) VAM 2A

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Cascade, Jan 30, 2016.

  1. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Picked this up with the pink toned 82p for the same price of $110. Think I did well on this one too but not as good as the 82. I think it's worth around $150-200 with the toning. Even though it's a bit splotchy the color is nice. Tuff as crap to photo well though

    Now for the 21 vammers. It seems the 2a has a small premium even though it's not a list vam. And why does it have a desirability rating? It's broken so.I don't know what the rating is but the 2b has a 3 of 5 star rating. This must be a 21 thing that I haven't run into yet?

    http://www.vamworld.com/1921-D+VAM-2A

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  3. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Very nice color for a '21, which are kind of like peace $ ( not many nice toners out there) Congrats on a pretty cool vam too, are you coming over to the dark side of the force?? Collecting 1921 vams now???
     
  4. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    Nice VAM with enough going on to keep me busy. Really like the toning. :)
     
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  5. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    I'm refocusing my matriculation on all things vam and unfortunately that requires 78, 81, 21, peace dollars etc. Lol. This one I bought for the color though. And I didn't pay much more than straight for the grade so it was a no brainer
     
  6. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Any help on the "desirability" ratings on this and other 21d vams guys? What's it about? Does it mean that while not list vams they do carry desirability and possible premiums, kinda like being in between a common and a list vam?
     
  7. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Rarity and desirability are judgment calls on Leroy's part when he assigns the VAM. Occasionally the fullness of time affects real-world rarity when more come to light (or far fewer than expected), and interest is in the eye of the buyer (appearance on a List shoots interest upward regardless of the "rating").
     
  8. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    I get that part dave, the I-x stands for interest and the R-x for rarity and they are fluid assignments. I just haven't run into this star rating for "desierablity" yet. Is that another assignment by Leroy and is it exclusive to 21d or 21's in general?
     
  9. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Dunno; that icon never appears to me at VAMworld regardless of the browser I use. Just a placeholder for an image. One of the (many) things I dislike about VAMworld's software format. I would guess Rob Joyce figures prominently in that estimate if it's limited to 1921's.
     
  10. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Huh. I've heard that name but don't know much more about Rob. Wonder if @messydesk knows :)
     
  11. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Rob created VAMWorld in 2006 rather than attempt to release an updated version of his "Fun with 1921" book, which was dedicated to die break varieties of 1921-D Morgans. Rob used the 1-5 star rating to convey simply how desirable a coin was, without an attempt to give a rarity rating or step on Leroy's I-factor. This had also been used earlier in some of Jeff Oxman's attribution guides, such as the 1878 8TF book.
     
  12. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Thanks messy ;) I knew he sounded familiar. I sure have some learnin to do on VAM intricacies
     
  13. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Rob is personally responsible (Fun With 1921's) for my concentration on the issue.
     
  14. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Well then, I guess I now know what to spend my $25 amazon gift card on :)

    After my 1b6 cherrypick 21's have become much more attractive to me for some reason
     
  15. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Fun With 1921 is kind of superseded these days; I believe every variety mentioned in it now has a VAM number, which they didn't when Rob published it.
     
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