Bad Coins and Bad NGC Slabs- Not for the Faint of Heart...

These recently walked into some Friend's coin shops...

Images aren't great and some are only slab checks at best but I thought I would show them here just for information:



I took the time to find the genuine examples on NGC's web site for image comparisons (bad ones on the left!):








For the US $5 gold the 1911-D had an example sold on the Bay, but the seller used the NGC slab images and then his cropped to not show the labels for comparison:


Bad $1911-D on the left from the listing:




I notified NGC about these; often they will make a note on the on-line cert about known counterfeits for the cert number...

Stay thirsty my Friends!

 

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Good Lord!

 

WOW!! GREAT JOB!!! Thanks for the post!

 

Ouch!

 

How does the casual collector/investor stand a chance.

 

Honestly with proper study and review! All of the info is available on the internet to properly research, especially the NGC slabs. It's the quick "spot buys" of items too good to be true that often burn folks...


NGC $ guide is $8500 ...

 

From the ones you do find and identify there has to be thousands in private collections around the country.

 

Absolutely; I just keep trying to get the word out...

 

Best way to slow this down a lot is chipping slabs. If done right, next to impossible to duplicate or transfer. Will only slow it a lot, but not eliminate it, because there will always be folks who won’t be aware of it or won’t take advantage of it when they buy.

Cal

 

OK, so is this one good?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1344839582...AhcSva5kNKnWxnzZ/oyE3wZNs=|tkp:Bk9SR56f1K_dYQ

 

Wow! Hard for me to imagine this is happening at this magnitude. Thank you for assisting the hobby. I doubt you or any others that do what you do will ever get the recognition deserved.

 

Well, this scares the devil out of me.....

1921 MS63 100th Anniv 2021 Special Label Morgan Silver Dollar NGC *0679

This is a stock image, the quality of the item you will receive will be equal to or better than the one in the photo.

 

Just (WOW) they are getting better and far more bolder,this would fool the average person without thinking twice,scary.

 

Soo... are the ones brought to the coin shop legit coins in fake slabs? Or counterfeit coins in fake slabs?

Either way, it is terrible that the fakes have gotten so convincing

 

Fake coins and bad slabs.

 

The main reason I lost interest in collection ancients was the number of East European fakes...and now THIS!
Ultimately, this kind of crap can only harm the hobby.
Guess you really need to be able to REALLY trust whomever is selling you their coins.
Caveat Emptor You'al,
J.T.

 

It used to be "Trust nothing you read, and only half of what you see." Now, you can't trust ANYTHING!

 

A buyer needs to pay attention to detail.
A lot of those look good to me, BUT I don't look at many slabs.
I have a few I could reference, but the grading sites to look up certs with pictures really help.
I did notice on the bad slabs the coin holding tabs are usually wider or more of them 3vs4 tabs.
Thanks Jack, education is the key

 

Thanks for the effort put in to alert us.