Fake or real?

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  1. rlm's cents

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  3. cpm9ball

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    Is PCGS using "80" to identify problem coins? @Conder101 would probably know.

    Chris
     
  4. rlm's cents

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    It is not on their list.
     
  5. Yankee42

    Yankee42 Well-Known Member

    Sample slab?
     
  6. Kapimono

    Kapimono Active Member

    Yes.
     
  7. Yankee42

    Yankee42 Well-Known Member

    80 was the old "genuine not gradable" code.
     
  8. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'm thinking this is one of those deals where someone paid to have a bunch of VDBs put in plastic. Probably a promotion or some type of giveaway.
     
  9. Kapimono

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    http://www.pcgs.com/News/Pcgs-Revised-Genuine-Service

    Here's a "newer" list of problem numbers. From 2008, not sure if there was anything newer. Subject coin is from at least 2009 when 80 was probably ending or no longer used, so I'm not sure. Need a PCGS guru to chime in here.
     
  10. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    This thread on the PCGS boards makes reference to the 80 code. Given that, my inclination is to call it genuine and likely some kind of sample slab or promo like @ldhair and @Yankee42 suggested, based mostly on the "who would fake this?" factor and it being dated 2009.
     
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  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    This is the only one I have ever seen with the little image in the label. Conder will know.
     
  12. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    Something about the font just doesn't look right. I don't like how the bottom parts of the 9's in "1909" hang below the bottom of the 1 and the 0. I could just be seeing things though.
     
  13. mac266

    mac266 Well-Known Member

    The OP said in the opening line that the serial number does not check. Therefore, the rest of the discussion is moot -- it's fake.
     
  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Wrong! More than one real slab will not check. And apparently this is a much older slab (hence the 80 category). Thus not graded and more likely not to be in their data bank.
     
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  15. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    It is a promotional item and it is a real PCGS slab. I have seen them before. They came out around 2009 during the hype around the Lincoln bicentennial coins. The 80 code seems to date from after 2003 (at least it wasn't included on PCGS body bags before that date)

    Promotional items do not always show up on serial number verification
     
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