1906-O Barber Half - What's going on with the date?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by iPen, Jan 22, 2016.

  1. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    This Barber half dollar has something in the "9" digit. Is it simply PMD, cud, or a die crack? Or, is it something else? Not a clipped planchet by the way... at least I'm pretty sure that it's not, given the non-uniform cut (whether straight, arc, or angled off the edge area).

    Thanks in advance!

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  3. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Clipped planchets don't always have to be a uniform cut as I learned a few months ago on CT

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  4. Mark Oliver

    Mark Oliver Active Member

    Something occupied space it was not supposed to, that is for sure.
     
  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Die Chip in the numeral 9 is more like it. Die Crack is something different and a CUD is formed near the edge or rim of a coin.

    This one is mine
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  6. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member


    Wonder if they had to put that clipped penny in a dime slab?
     
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  7. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Perhaps it's just your photo, but it very much reminds me of the soft metal fakes collected by someone I used to know.
     
  8. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I am - tentatively - calling this one PMD because the clipped-off lettering and rim do not show the characteristic weakness from being struck at the edge of a clip. Note Markus' coin above.
     
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  9. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    The OP stated that it's not a clipped planchet. His question is more about the filled 9. What's going on with the date? Die Chip or Break.
     
  10. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    Yes, true, though US coins tend to be one uniform cut - straight; part of a circle. And, even if it's non-uniform, the cut can be seen as a series of angles formed by one cutting action. The cut on mine doesn't look like it was caused by a clipping caused by a singular motion. Rather, it looks like someone went to work on it so I assumed it was PMD.

    That said, I guess it could be a clipped planchet, if the clipped area was worn down, just as the rest of the coin is worn. Many of the examples I see of clipped planchets are in pretty pristine or "high grade" condition. But, maybe it would be better to compare my example with a low grade example to see how wear affects the clipped area's appearance.
     
  11. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    This is not entirely true. The proper term for this error is an "incomplete planchet," and there are three basic appearances. The curved "clip" is due to a punch overlapping a previous punch, as you mention. The straight "clip" occurs when the punch occurs at the edge of the metal strip, as seen on the Lincoln shown above. You can also have a "ragged edge" "clip," which can occur at either end of the metal strip. The Canadian coin shown above exhibits a ragged edge clip, and many US coins are known with the same appearance (I used to own a Franklin with a ragged edge. I have since sold it).

    All that being said - I agree that your Barber shows post mint damage. There are no signs of being a true incomplete planchet error, as you indicate.

    As for the date, there appears to be a small die chip in the 9 and the 6. These, as you probably know, are quite common.
     
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  12. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    That's a cool Lincoln.
     
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  13. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Markus , could you take a pic of the reverse of your cent , thanks .
     
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