ILLYRIA, Dyrrhachion AR drachm

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  1. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    now that's a nice one sallent!

    i like it when they have some cool little minor devices on there like a bird or club or whatever.

    i have a bargain bin example, pretty well centered but missing most of the legend and any minor devices that may have been present.

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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Took forever to find one in my price range. I settled on this when one did surface.

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    Apollonia, Illyria, Greece, (200 - 80 B.C.)
    AR Drachm
    O: APIΣTΩN (moneyer), cow left, head turned, suckling calf right.
    R: double stellate pattern within double linear square with sides curved inward.
    3.2g
    17.5mm
     
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  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    This is not one of the issues I think of as often faked but the Black Sea diobols are. In general the fakes that worry me most are struck from dies which are harder to spot than casts unless you have a tip on the style of the fake dies. There can be fakes of anything made by casting but making fake dies is a lot of work and we tend to see them in greater quantity. It is perfectly possible that a hoard will be found with every coin from the same die set but any issue that shows up with dozens of die matches all of a sudden when there has not been any before does require looking closely at all the other factors.

    My Apollonia and Dyrrhachion offerings:
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    Slightly before our cows came on the scene there were Dyrrhachion drachms with Herakles and Pegasos. These are not rare but not as common as the cow.
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  5. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    Illyria Dyrrhachion.jpg

    My Mommy cow and little cow coin.

    Speaking of "animal coins" I have discovered that some of the early republic bronze "prow series" Ases have a dog on the prow!
     
  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    => ooowwww, I wanna see that!!
     
  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Dogs on Republican bronze coins, by Crawford number (from Andrew McCabe's website, with his proposed rarity rating in parentheses):

    26/4 Half litra (Common) picture, 3rd coin
    122/3 As (Scarce)
    122/4 Semis (Very Rare)
    122/5 Triens (Rare)
    122/6 Quadrans (Rare)
    122/7 Sextans (Rare)
    (pictures of various Crawford 122 issues here and here)

    Hey @stevex6, do you use CNG's automated Want List? It's very handy and you can enter the Crawford number to make the hit very specific. You'll be automatically notified when a match is coming up for auction. Numisbids also has an automated Want List function but it isn't as sophisticated.
     
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  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    *maybe*

    :oops:

    ... no
     
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