Yes, I'd characterize it as "doubling" - it's too regular to be accidental damage - but probably machine doubling for the same stroke reasons I mentioned in your other thread. See how the one relates to the other, even though they don't look anything alike? With that said, in a case like this where the features aren't "classic MD," you always hedge your research bet by having Internet resources for known doubled dies open in tabs. With Lincolns, there are some pretty good resources along those lines. There's always the possibility of new discoveries, so not seeing what you have doesn't mean it doesn't belong there; the true value of such a resource is its' ability to precisely confirm what you have if you're lucky enough to hit on it. MD is an insidious little devil who takes all kinds of forms.
I couldn't find anything on doubling on the reverse side of the 1984 penny. That is why I asked. I try to look things up though, I just don't always find what I'm looking for to compare.
Wexler alone lists ten for the 84-P, and one for the D, reverse only. However, detailed information for the Philly varieties is not provided, and obviously isn't going to help you compare. I haven't checked coppercoins or elsewhere. I'm not exactly sure how the "doubling" displayed by your coin would be classified, but it unfortunately is not a doubled die.
Most often, I respect Dave's opinions, but this is one time that I have to disagree. The marks on the "STAT" do not appear to be consistent with machine doubling. Note that the marks on both T's begin slightly below the junction of the crossbar and the vertical column, but they are sort of like an inverted and elongated teardrop. If it was MD, why didn't it begin at the very junction of the crossbar and the vertical column? Why are the "inverted teardrops" wide and somewhat rounded at the top while tapering to almost a point at the bottom? The same is true for the mark on the top of the "A". Why is it rounded at the top tapering to a point at the bottom. Yes, machine doubling can be insidious and take all kinds of forms, but so can random hits from an unknown object. Have you ever tied a small weight to a piece of cord and pulled it across the wooden ties of a railroad track? The weight hits a tie, jumps into the air, then hits the next tie, and so on and so on. Chris
You're welcome. As I last understood it, Mr. Wexler is in the process of posting his records to the site, so sooner later all will be listed with information. Until then, any (such as with the Philly reverses) where just a number is listed means that it has been assigned and that the varieties do exist.
I refuse to believe you're wrong. A lot of times we just end up playing probabilities with these things, and although I lean the other way there is plenty of room for Chris to possibly be right.
Sheila, Do you have a copy of the Cherrypickers Guide? If not, you should get a copy of volume one covering cents and nickels. Tons of genuine doubled dies are NOT listed but Appendix A should teach you enough to ID a genuine doubled die. If you are an ANA member you can borrow the book. There is The Authoritative reference on Lincoln cents by Wexler/Flynn that is more complete about specific coins. And...if you spend some free time on your computer looking up information about doubled dies, how they are made, etc. instead of looking at coins, you will know more about the subject than many of us here Then, when you feel confident, I'll test you with multiple examples of damage, DD's, MD, etc and we all can join in with opinions. But first you need to do your own research (should take less than a week) so you'll be ready to play the game.
I am in the process of getting a computer. And hopefully a better camera. I will be doing some studying as well.
Well, everyone here is like your "Big Computer." Hope you get the children interested too. Join the ANA - even for one year. Cheaper than a computer and you can borrow the books and education tapes. Your pics are fine for showing us. Do you own a genuine double die yet? That would be VERY helpful.
It doesn't seem like random hits to me . I'd say MD is most likely with maybe a hit on the A . @Jim M . @mikediamond .
Not yet. That is why I have to look up everything and ask questions. A phone can only do so much. I need bigger and clearer pictures on a computer screen.
It would be nice if they added a plug that would go from a iPhone to a regular computer monitor . I have the largest iPhone and the pics are way to small to see a lot of things .
