1921 Peace Dollar grading

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  1. pr69

    pr69 Member

    I am looking for opinions on the grade of this 1921 Peace Dollar. I am finding this year difficult to grade due to its high relief which typically causes a weak strike.

    So the bulk of the hair covering Liberty's ear is flattened, which on other types of coins would mean it was highly worn in circulation in people's pockets, but in this case the rest of the coin is beautiful, including good detail on the eagle but weakened in the middle of it directly opposite her hair (the two high spots on the coin). I'd like to hear some experts' opinions. I have looked at multiple graded slabs online and still can't pin this down.

    Thank you for any thoughts you can bring to this discussion.

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  3. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

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  4. pr69

    pr69 Member

    Thank you, @Paul M. The example you sent was helpful. Just after that I ran across this example on eBay of an AU-55 which looks almost identical to mine (even more so than the one you sent). The only differences are: 1) my eagle has more feather detail (mine could have a slightly better strike?), and my obverse doesn't have the dings on Liberty's face/neck (mine could be a slightly better grade like AU-58?).

    1921 AU55 PCGS from eBay obv.jpg 1921 AU55 PCGS from eBay rev.jpg
     
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  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    All of the hairlines on it bothers me........Improperly Cleaned.

    Chris
     
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  6. charlietig

    charlietig Well-Known Member

    My thoughts exactly... surprised they straight graded that piece...
     
  7. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Cleaned au 50 my thoughts. Definitely not original surfaces
     
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  8. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Are you guys talking about the OP coin or the slabbed coin? o_O
     
  9. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    The OP's coin looks like it took a light cleaning to me. I think it would grade AU-50/53, cleaned.
     
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  10. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I agree with Chris on the OP coin. I would call it AU details, cleaned.
     
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  11. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    The OP's coin.

    Chris
     
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  12. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    The OP's coin looks like AU details, cleaned for sure. It has that dull, lusterless look of a cleaning, and lots of hairline scratches..
     
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  13. johnno92

    johnno92 Member

    AU-53 Cleaned for the OP's coin.
     
  14. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    F-VF, harshly cleaned.
     
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  15. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Here is my 1921 AU 63/MS 58 (LOL) for comparison. Slight wear on the high spots, but original color, and no hairlines or luster chops from a harsh cleaning:

    1921 au copy.jpg 1921 au rev copy.jpg
     
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  16. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I think Chris is commenting on the original coin not the PCGS coin which is hazy and IF CLEANED it's still "market Acceptable." IMO there is nothing that shows in the photo to reach an opinion of cleaned.

    PS Is Mike Thorne (above) the famous columnist?
     
  17. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Well, that's what I get for not zooming in on the image. :p I see the hairlines clearly now, and I agree -- AU-55 details. I thought it was funny lighting originally.
     
  18. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

    I'm in the 55group...
     
  19. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    I'm famous? Thanks!
     
  20. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I think the OP's coin could reach a 58 if not cleaned.
     
  21. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    To me it looks like a lot of wear, not a weak strike. To clarify, it probably did have a weak strike before it circulated for several years and was then harshly cleaned. That's my opinion, for whatever it's worth.
     
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