1943 steel missing 4

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by usmc60, Jan 8, 2016.

  1. usmc60

    usmc60 SEMPER FI

    1. It's been road hard and put away wet, but you can see the missing 4 without magnification . WIN_20160107_16_11_02_Pro.jpg WIN_20160107_16_12_07_Pro.jpg
     
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  3. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    I'd issue an ALL POINTS BULLETIN.
    Grease filled die. Nice one, too.
     
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  4. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    What rickmp said
     
  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    They call it the "Phantom" or "Weak" 4.. I always wanted to know why it's the number 4 in the date that the Grease Filled Strike occurs most of the time.

    There are quite of few of these on ebay ranging from $6.00 to a little over $100.00! Crazy
     
  6. Markus1959

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  7. TJ1952

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  8. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    That's a cool coin. I quit staring at the photo because half of my brain saw the weakest 4 imaginable while the other half didn't. :confused:
     
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  9. longarm

    longarm Well-Known Member

    I came across one of those 1943penny.JPG recently along with a copper colored steel cent.
     
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  10. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    You have a nice avatar @longarm.. not too many GIF's on Cointalk!
     
  11. longarm

    longarm Well-Known Member

    Any opinions on this one? 1951dpenny.JPG
     
  12. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    I'm thinking Die Chip.
     
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  13. usmc60

    usmc60 SEMPER FI

    Cool fine.
     
  14. usmc60

    usmc60 SEMPER FI

    I found this coin in a roll of steel that I bought over 15 years ago, when a spread them out this one just, jumped up and slapped me upside the head. I have been following those prices for over 15 years on E-BAY (crazy)
     
  15. -Andy-

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  16. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Because it's the right-of-way for the PCH!

    @usmc60 - Nice one!

    Chris
     
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  17. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Interesting. I gotta think about that.
     
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  18. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    I think I remember @Conder101 having a theory on it. *I think*
     
  19. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Well, it stands to reason that a grease fill has to originate somewhere other than the die, since they didn't grease dies. :)

    We can assume a Mint worker didn't put it there, and as often as greasers happen, it is plainly a routine action during the minting process which makes the grease available. Every once in a while they overgreased some part, and the next time the part moved it flung a blob of grease. They grease parts in the same place, the operation action doesn't change, and it's not unreasonable to think the same action might fling the same-size piece of grease to the same spot regularly.

    This being the obverse die complicates things just a bit, although I seem to recall that obverses weren't always hammer dies with Lincolns.

    And for that matter, if the problem seems confined to 1943 Wheaties, it could have been a single very solid fill on a single die. That could be as many as maybe a quarter million identical grease fills.
     
  20. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    This is why they use white grease in the bakery.
     
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  21. usmc60

    usmc60 SEMPER FI

    If I recall correctly the machine operator at the mint does not grease the presses it is done automatically you can see this clearly by viewing videos of the mint printing presses you will see that little circular hose that Carries Greece to the main function of the machine
     
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