To Error or not to error

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Silverhouse, Dec 24, 2015.

  1. Silverhouse

    Silverhouse Well-Known Member

    I don't have much experience with error or struck through coins. I don't own any. However I couldn't pass up this 1911 UNC Barber Dime. The dealer has it marked as struck through some sort of "fuzz," but I don't know what it could be. I'll try to get better photo's but these will have to do for now. Love the luster though. The price on the 2x2 is not the price I paid for the coin. I wonder what was on the die?

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    The 2x2 makes it hard to determine exactly what it could be. There might be fuzz on the inside of the 2x2 that makes it look like fibers on the coin.
    I collect struck through errors and I can think of 2 things. Sometimes when a mint employee wipes down a Die, a cloth piece can tear off and get struck between the Die and Planchet. Or beside a piece of cloth, the materials that make up the cloth such as the fibers or a piece of string. That could create a "fuzzy" look to a coin. I see something on the Reverse side that may be struck through string or strings.
     
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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Here is an example of a Half Dollar that I own that has a struck Through String. You can see the "fuzzy" looking fibers clearly
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  5. Silverhouse

    Silverhouse Well-Known Member

    I'd like to get it graded, however I know most TPGs save for ANACS don't attribute such coins. I don't know if mine is major enough to warrant a labeling as such. I figure if I end up grading the coin, might as well get it attributed correctly. I'll take better photos of the coin out of the holder when I get a chance.
     
  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    First, remove staples, carefully
    #2: open flip.
    #3: Take pictures.

    #4: close flip & staple.

    Smarter idea: take pix before putting in flip
     
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  7. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    Agreed, My current method.

    Error or not, it looks like a very nice coin, I love the luster.
     
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  8. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I don't blame you for scarfing that one. It's a brilliant lustrous coin to begin with, and the strikethrough is fascinating.
     
  9. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Since you don't own any, this must belong to @paddyman98 .

    Chris
     
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  10. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    It's a gorgeous coin either way; I'd go with struck through, especially since it retained all its luster. Nice grab!
     
  11. -Andy-

    -Andy- Andrew B. -Andy- YN

    if it's an error or not I'd trade for this coin!! :)
     
  12. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Uh uh! This is the wrong forum for solicitations.

    Chris
     
  13. Silverhouse

    Silverhouse Well-Known Member

    Well this is my first one.
     
  14. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Heck of a start. The luster is plainly ridiculous, especially for an issue with not many untoned survivors in Mint State. Go run down a page or two of Heritage results for this issue; you'll note not many with blast-white surfaces.

    To me, that means we pretty much have to assume this one has been dipped at one point or another. As a Morgan fan, that bothers me not at all. If it happened, it was a good dip and a brilliant coin resulted.
     
  15. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    ICG grades these coins and adds "struck thru" to labels. Before you do anything:
    Look closely at Paddy's half dollar. Note how the little fibers left a SUNKEN-IN impression into the coin's surface. Now take your hand lens and make sure your dime shows the same effect. You will really have a super coin IF some of the fibers are still attached while others have been removed completely or are pealing away from one part of the groove!
     
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  16. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    That is a very beautiful dime!! The luster is just insane. I think the strike through is a very nice cherry on top of the perfect sunday. Congrats..
     
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  17. Silverhouse

    Silverhouse Well-Known Member

    Thank you all for the reply. I'll take a closer look at the fibers in the coin. I wonder what she would grade.
     
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  18. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Remove the coin and let us know. IN or ON? Are the "relic" lines incuse?
     
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  19. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    You'll note from auction records that Dimes don't seem to get away with anything from a grading standpoint. The smallest of marks on a Quarter is prominent on a Dime. One set of images optimized to show luster isn't enough to draw firm grading conclusions, of course, but if we assume it's Mint State (I have the slightest of doubts based on the obverse and the 2x2 Mylar is in play) the ceiling from what I see here is about 63.
     
  20. Silverhouse

    Silverhouse Well-Known Member

    It appears as though lines are incuse in the coin. The fiber line between the D and the I, and it stretches upwards towards the left side of the "O". These aren't scratches, that's for sure and the coin in hand is beaming with luster. I need a better camera to get better shots. I'll take my own and post them when I get more time. I'm at work at the moment.
     
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