Mint damaged coins to look circulated ???

I bought two $250 boxes of 2015 Native American dollars. One each from D and P. The D coins looked fine for searching but the P coins were scratched, stained and nicked up as if they were damaged on purpose. Yes... all 250 of them. Even though the coins have not been touched by human hands, they look circulated. I think the mint did this on purpose because on the reverse the roofs on the buildings look split as if the coin was pressed twice. I wonder, since the coins have this damage. Is it possible to send a coin to be graded with the damage and explain to the grading service the situation since the coins have not been touched.

 

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Who did you buy them from? Post pictures.

 

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We'll wait for the pictures.

 

Bought from the U.S.Mint.

 

I'll try to get some pics later today.

 

You've searched and examined them, but they somehow still have "not been touched by human hands"?

If TPGs accepted the claims of submitters as absolute fact, and based their conclusions solely upon them, I cringe at the thought of the results. Such behavior wouldn't make them much of a "third-party", would it? Just food for thought....

I'll look forward to the photos.

 

Yes, the Mint intentionally damaged the coins in your Philly box because they knew you would complain on CT.

No, the grading services won't believe a word you say.

Chris

FWIW, when the Mint released the 2004-P Westward Journey nickels, I bought the $50 bags, and they were in such terrible shape that they actually snagged on my cotton gloves.

 

I'm pretty sure you are smart enough to understand by what I meant as untouched was that I was wearing gloves. I didn't need a Edit: language reply. Just curious since I'm NOT a world known top notch coin collector like some here. Maybe next time I'll make a post for your PhD status to understand more clearly.

 

Hello Junior Member
please provide some pictures of what you are seeing. It would really help. We would like to help you determine what you have but can't go on just your word alone.

 

Noticeable on the rooftops. Pics are the best I can do as of now.Hopefully this will do. Thanks

 

My thoughts are this. It's December, so you're probably getting the dregs of the mint at this point. These $250 boxes are not meant to be MS70 collectible coins. It's just 250 $1 coins pulled from the mint and boxed up. I imagine most of what you are seeing are bag marks and production spots.

 

OK. Just fact checking. Based on the crappy photos I'd say the coins are full of bag marks.

 

Simply unbelievable....

Now just stop for a moment and THINK about what YOU said... this has nothing to do with being a collector, as you're most certainly more of one than I am, but is about plain common sense. Yes, I understood what you meant with the "untouched" thing, but that's also, by your own word, the argument you were thinking of presenting to a TPG which, in fact, would then mean that you expect a THIRD PARTY to take your word for it. Does this make any sense to you? Think of it from the other side; if you were to buy a slabbed coin, would you want the TPG's unbiased opinion, based upon facts, or would some likely BS claim or assumption fed to them from some unknown submitter suffice? Perhaps I should take a handful of early century Barbers and submit them with the claim they were in dear old grammie's purse during her Titanic voyage and subsequent rescue; do you think they should just take my word for it?

Like it or not, sometimes a very reasonable way to answer a question is with another question, and for some strange reason, I'm pretty sure you're smart enough to understand this. Unfortunately for me, I forgot to put my kid gloves on before posting, and for that I am terribly sorry.

 

I agree that you just got the bottom of the barrel so to speak .

 

Agreed...

 

Bag marks or production spots....possibly. But it just seems odd to have the SAME (identical, and I mean IDENTICAL))'bag marks' or 'spots' on the same buildings, in the same spots, on the same roof tops, going the same direction and only on the reverse on more than 75% of the 250 coins I received from the Mint's bottom of the barrel.

 

The mint doesn't mint one coin and then have some employee who is wearing cotton glove extremely carefully place each coin into a bag. The coin follows a long system of transport devices. So it would make sense that they all have wear or contact marks in the same place.

 

If the marks are identical, the die or the minting process caused them. We can not help much without good images. We can't see what you are.

 

This is new information. As ldhair says...

Keep the coin you offered to send me. That's just weird.