1963 Double Denomination Dime

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by PJ70278, Dec 13, 2015.

  1. PJ70278

    PJ70278 New Member

    This will probably be my first and last post to your forum, I am not an avid coin collector, but I have had this dime since I was a Jr. in high school. I thought it was cool then and gave it to my grandfather to hold onto and forgot about it. He recently passed away and I came across the dime when trying to find some paper work. I have searched the US Mint, other sites and can not seem to find any information on this error. If you look at the dime you can see Lincoln is stamped on the front and on the back you can see the Lincoln Memorial. I took this to a local coin shop when I was a kid and they said that it was because a penny had been pressed into the dime, I did not buy the story when they guy offered to give me $5.00 for the dime. Just hoping for some more information as I am lost and do not know if the coin has any value or not.

    Thanks for any help that you can offer.
     

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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    cool. wait for more opinions
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    no, PMD, someone made it in their shop

    Hammer a cent onto a dime--

    poof!

    Instant fake error
     
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  5. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    That's what I was thinking at first, but the dime seems raised not incuse or recessed , but would need better photos
     
  6. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Yeah, looks like the old 'grab two coins and squeeze them in a vice trick'. grin.gif Just a guess but it's definitely pmd.
     
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  7. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    Nope, if that was the case Lincoln would be facing the other way. This one definitely needs more study.
     
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  8. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    My opinion is that it was done with homemade cent dies. There's the damage on the rims and too much of the dime design remains. There are lots of legit slabbed ones out there to compare to.
     
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  9. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    Yep, agreed. Someone could have impressed a cent against a hard surface to make a die, than struck that dime with their "die".
     
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  10. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    Beat me to it by one second :)
     
  11. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    They hammer the dime into the cent .
    Thats why the rim on the reverse is smashed ..
     
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  12. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    A coin to coin press job would not leave a positive image. It's very easy to see the 1c "liberty" is not a mirror image. The OPs coin does need more study, but I'd be inclined to say it was overstruck with a home made die.
     
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  13. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    It's a dime that was struck a second time with cent dies. In other words, a double-denomination error. The question is whether the cent dies were genuine or fake. The cent strike looks weaker than usual, but this does not necessarily indicate the use of counterfeit dies. The coin will have to be examined up close by an expert to assess its authenticity.
     
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  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    This was done by someone after it left the mint. See them all the time. Totally fake and what we call PMD. I'd keep it because of the history you provided.
     
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  15. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I agree. You said that well. This is one that needs a close look by someone like you. I'm liking it as real. I'm not very good with fake dies but can see how that would be possible.
     
  16. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Can you explain the reasoning behind your declaration of fake?
     
  17. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Where is Rascal when we need him?
     
  18. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    The penny design is pressed into the dime on both the obverse and the reverse. On the obverse I can see the outline of Lincoln's head but the word Liberty is on an approximant 45 degree angle to the head outline. On the reverse, are the steps to the Lincoln Memorial, They are on a different angle than the obverse impression. Based on this, the impression, in my opinion, of Lincoln onto the dime would have required 3 strikes. Since the dime is impressed with Lincoln and a cent planchet will not fit into a dime collar and not one, not two but three strikes would have had to occur to get all the angles of the cent onto the dime I can only reach the conclusion that this was done after it left the mint. Probably in a vise in someone's garage or work shop. I've seen this many times before and that is what it looks like to me. My opinion is based on 2 photos and what I see from them.
     
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  19. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I feel if you study it a bit more you will change your mind. The angles are correct. This was not done with a vise.
     
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  20. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Both the dime strike and the cent strike are properly oriented.
    On the cent strike, to my eyes, the LIBERTY and the bust are in their proper place, as well as the memorial on the reverse.
    The cent strike is light because a dime is thinner than a cent.
    I think this is a genuine, mint produced, double denomination cent on dime.
     
  21. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Something that might help the OP is for someone to give him an idea of what a real double denomination 11 cent coin would be worth. As it is, he doesn't know if it is worth $20 or $20,000
     
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