ASA-Accugrade Des moines IA early blue holder

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Robert Paul, Dec 10, 2015.

  1. Robert Paul

    Robert Paul Active Member

    Here is a new purchase for me and I like the holder and I collect these Ike dollars. This is a new type of holder for me to find. Accugrade has many small holders out there and on the reverse label will be 'Accugrade'/'Connecticut' or 'West'.
    This is the first time I have seen the state as Iowa. I have read some of Alan Hager's book on silver dollars "The ACCUGRADE SYSTEM" and there is no mention of ever being in that state, although he mention California, New York.
    I was wondering if anyone here has ever seen this holder?
    Or know anything about it.
    I have nine different type of holders for this company and I am always looking for one more. I'll post some of the different types as time goes by.
    Post any ACCGRADE Coins/Holders for this thread.
    Thanks
     

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  3. dwhiz

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  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    I never saw the blue holder for ASA.

    Interesting.

    How about showing all the others that you have?
     
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  5. DIAMONDS

    DIAMONDS New Member

    This grading system is Faud over graded by three grades or more no resell value here dealer 45 years I will not trade theses
     
  6. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    For everything we might say about Accugrade, Alan is not a bad grader and his slabs are (with exceptions) not poorly graded, especially earlier ones.
     
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  7. DIAMONDS

    DIAMONDS New Member

    Oh try to sell them see what you get 20 cents on Alan what joke biggest cook around
     
  8. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    IIRC Conder said that Iowa was one of the franchise operations (I think CA was also).

    You out bid me on all but one of them... this will be my 2nd Iowa. #1 is dot matrix label Peace $... these look to be laser printed labels.
     
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  9. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    But some folks like to collect 'em.........:)
     
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  10. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Bob - you want HOLDERS (there is only the two Accugrade slabs, photo and non-photo) that I'm aware of or LABELS?


    Ignoring the common 2 and 3 line versions from Conder's book... (I have two different styles of the 2 line (ACCUGRADE / Since 1984) and several of the 3 line and bar code varieties also)


    non-photo

    ACCUGRADE (R) / 2005 PALO VERDE AVE. / SUITE 333 / LONG BEACH, CA 90815 (laser, ACCUGRADE in an outline font)

    ACCUGRADE / P.O. BOX 4304 / GREENWICH, CT 06830 (laser, ACCUGRADE in an shadow font) (one light blue/green label paper, one darker blue)

    ACCUGRADE (R) / P.O. BOX 7704 / DES MOINES, IA 50322 (dot matrix, ACCUGRADE in an outline font)

    ACCUGRADE (R) / CONNECTICUT (laser, ACCUGRADE in an outline font)

    ACCUGRADE / 2269 CHESTNUT ST. / SUITE 272 / SAN FRANCISCO, CA 94123 (dot matrix, ACCUGRADE in an outline font)

    ACCUGRADE / P.O. BOX 4304 / GREENWICH, CT 06830 (laser, ACCUGRADE in an outline font)

    ACCUGRADE (R) / Since 1984 (laser, ACCUGRADE in black with close grey shadow, italics) (cream label paper)

    ACCUGRADE (R) / SINCE 1984 (laser, ACCUGRADE in black with close grey shadow, italic - SINCE 1984 non-italic) (cream label paper)



    photo

    ACCUGRADE (R) / CONNECTICUT (laser, ACCUGRADE in a shadow font) (blue label paper)

    ACCURADE (R) / CONNECTICUT (laser, ACCURADE [missing G] in a shadow font) (cream label paper)

    ACCUGRADE (R) / CONNECTICUT (laser, ACCUGRADE in a shadow font) (cream label paper)

    ACCUGRADE (R) / bar code / ASA-ACCUGRADE.COM (laser, ACCUGRADE in red with grey shadow) (grey label paper) [I posted 'Frankenslab' a while back]

    ACCUGRADE-91 / GREENWICH, CT 06830 (laser, ACCUGRADE in an outline font)

    ACCUGRADE-65 / GREENWICH, CT 06830 (laser, ACCUGRADE in an outline font)

    ACCUGRADE / P.O. BOX 4304 / GREENWICH, CT 06830 (laser, ACCUGRADE in an outline font)

    ACCUGRADE (R) / Since 1984 (laser, ACCUGRADE in red with grey shadow, Since 1984 in blue) (cream label paper)


    And then there are the franchises and unauthorized users...
     
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  11. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Grade the coin, not the slab. Not that I'd sell a slabbed ACG coin. :)
     
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  12. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Every list of grading services I have seen put Accugrade in the basement.
     
  13. Robert Paul

    Robert Paul Active Member

    Basement or not. I like what I like and collect that. I don't have many but to have a few for my collection is ok with me.
     
  14. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I'm just going based on the few dozen ACG slabs I've seen. It's variable, though, because as has been mentioned in this thread, he franchised. Chances are the real dogs came from the franchisees.
     
  15. Robert Paul

    Robert Paul Active Member

    Sorry about that I was wondering just how high someone else was willing to go.
    I do collect the Ike's so these will be nice for my set.
     
  16. Robert Paul

    Robert Paul Active Member

    Here are some others I have.
     

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    Robert Paul Active Member

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    Strange grade! Would this one be two and a half points over graded?
    Really this is the first slab I have ever seen with a extra half point to the grade.
     
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  18. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I don't want to sound like a fan - I'm not - but one thing I rather liked about these was the "Commercial Grade" (lowercase "c" after the grade) on some of his slabs. I think he invented market grading. :)
     
  19. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Yes he did - and if you read his book(s) he did pop reports long beforeeveryone else.
     
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  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The OP coin is an ACG 8. Des Moines was a "branch office" that opened in 1986. It did not operate long and produced two varieties of holder, this one and an earlier variety (ACG 7) that used a dot matrix printer and did not have the registered symbol on the back label.

    ACG did have either one or two branch offices in California, one in San Francisco and one in Long Beach. i don't know if these were two different offices or if it was the same office and it changed locations. There is also a variety of AGC Slab that just says Accugrade WEST and one that says Accugrade CALIFORNIA. I don't know which office produced those or if it was a completely different office.

    None of the branch offices remained in business for long, probably no later than 1988.

    And say what you will, Alan Hagar was definitely an innovator in the industry at the time. He pioneered slabbing, photoslabs, commercial grading, decimal point grades (the precursor to todays + grade), pop reports and possibly some other things.
     
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  21. Robert Paul

    Robert Paul Active Member

    Thanks for the info Conder101, Burton Strauss. This was what I was hope for.
    More Info.
     
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