Got some Xmas presents from PCGS today :)

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Cascade, Dec 9, 2015.

  1. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Pretty much what I thought except

    A) The rim damage is so light on the 93 I wasn't even thinking a details but oh well, not too much of a price difference to a righteous slab AU anyway (5-7 left stars & RIB areas )

    B) I was hoping for at least 65 for the 88o. Darn!

    BUT...

    C) I'm THRILLED with the 89o because I was thinking the small jaw gouge might details it or at least limit it to 63 but no :) and the price difference is decent!

    I feel like Ralphie with his Red Rider in the back yard right now :D
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  5. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Gemmy 1895!!!!! All great coins and grades.☺!!!!
    But I would have asked for details on. This pair☺ if lucky a Vam# could double price some times.
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  6. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    No 95 jello. Must be a typo lol

    And ya, I'll vam em when I get a second and they'll probably get John's sticker when I have enough to send him. From a quick glance the 88o isn't a hot lips and it's just a round o. The 89o is a wicked cool soft strike with somewhat major planchet striations showing on both sides which doesn't show in those pics and it has a very clashed reverse too. I'm stoked it made 64!

    I'm wondering if cac will be at long beach in January? I want me some beans! (and I wish they'd start accepting new members already)
     
  7. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    CAC won't do details there Not a grading service. They look a plastic nothing more but Take more money.
    Tpg is where Details are noted MS64 88-0/89-0 with Top 50
    Is worth it. Cac not my2¢
     
  8. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Shame about the 1893. That is a great date, and that is a really attractive coin--the rim ding killed it being graded, but still a very attractive coin.
     
  9. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

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    What rim dmg.
    Must have been on Reverse rim. Pcgs just got lazy.
     
  10. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    You can see just how slight it is here jello, above 5-7 left stars & RIB 20151118_161548_opt.jpg 20151118_161616_opt.jpg
     
  11. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Looks like the slab covers the ding?
     
  12. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Too bad on the rim ding. It's the kind of thing that might get through eventually.

    Nice bunch of coins, though! The 89-O getting a 64 (it is very clean other than the vertical mark) and sort of makes up for the 88-O not getting a 65, and what's not to love about the 94 and 01?
     
  13. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    I'd crack out the '93 and try again.
     
  14. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Thanks messy. You'll probably see some of em in hand after the holidays. The 89o is out of my league apparently or I'm missing something due to the extreemly soft strike. I'm thinking it may be one of the 20's maybe 20a obverse if that is a slight clashed o I'm seeing, but the reverse clashes aren't even close and no clashed E but can that be from the soft strike? I haven't really had time to properly look look at it thouroughly though. The obverse is super clean relative to the clashed up reverse. Sorry for the abundance of pics guys but this coin looks very cool and unusual to me :) 20151210_120318_opt.jpg 20151210_121534_opt.jpg 20151210_115649_opt.jpg 20151210_120250_opt.jpg 20151210_115828_opt.jpg 20151210_115758_opt.jpg 20151210_115729_opt.jpg 20151210_115538_opt.jpg
     
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  15. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

  16. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    If there's no obverse clashing at all, then the die was replaced after a clash, since the reverse clashing is quite strong. The mint mark I would say is set to the right, and there are no such mint marks listed for 89-O based on a quick glance. It looks like you should have a clashed 'M' (looks like a Space Invader) near the 'd' in God, given the strength of the clash.
     
  17. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    So we could have a new one here? I might need to get this one to you quick then but I hate shipping valuables, even registered, in December lol
     
  18. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Interesting. It has the Wide Date of VAM-11, but then again so do some other 1889-O's including the 1A (should VAM-11 even exist, then?). The date hangs over 11 denticles, with the curve of the 9 slightly infringing on a 12th. Further, the VAMworld plate coin for V11 shows the same abnormally-leftward neck clash under the n of In.

    VAM-11, to me.
     
  19. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Hmmm, vam 11 does seem to be possible. I'm wondering if the fresh obverse might be a new marriage though if it is an 11 reverse?... Here's a closeup of the neck clash dave. Seems to be a double.
    And john, hard to tell but there could be a light M transfer. Can't get a good pic though 20151210_160847.jpg
     
  20. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    1889-O seems a candidate for cleanup, and there's also VAM-10 to consider - designated "Wide Date" but no visual information exists. This may be as close as we can get.
     
  21. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    All dates that haven't been studied closely are candidates to clean up. The "wide date" designation doesn't make sense given the date punch was the same for all coins. The extra space between the 8 and 9 shown in the VAM book is probably just an illusion on that coin. I would guess Leroy would eliminate VAMs 10 and 11 if they were brought to his attention. The OP's coin wouldn't be either of those, anyway, due to the mint mark position.
     
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