The Price of Early Large Cents

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  1. centsdimes

    centsdimes Active Member

    Has the price of early large cents been skyrocketing during the last couple of years? If so, why?
     
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  3. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I haven't seen that they have jumped much more than normal. The price seems to just continuously rise every year.
     
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  4. centsdimes

    centsdimes Active Member

    I only started collecting them a few years ago.
     
  5. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I won't say they have been on the rise, lately the graded ones have been dropping on ebay. Not enough for me though. I think they have held pretty steady - of course the ones I look at are lower grades.
     
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2015
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Doug, agreed, but lately, the past couple of years, it has started going up again
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Not according to that chart it hasn't Frank. The coin market right now is the lowest it has been since 2007.
     
  9. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    What makes up the PCGS 3000 Index? What does the "Y" axis number indicate?

    I see that in Oct 2015, it hit it's lowest point since Aug 2007. I assume the index is a measure of the coin industries strength, but I'd like a better understanding of the index.
     
  10. centsdimes

    centsdimes Active Member

    Maybe I should mention it is early large cents in lower grades (G-4,VG-8,F-12) that I am referring to.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You can find out everything you want right here - http://www.pcgs.com/prices/frame.aspx?type=coinindex&filename=index

    Now some people discount the value of the PCGS coin indexes. They say - oh those don't mean anything because those indexes only pertain to those specific coins (the list can be found at the link I provided). But usually these people don't want to believe what those indexes tell you. People want to believe that the values of their coins are always going up.

    Well, that simply isn't true. The coin market rises and falls on a regular basis just like all other markets in the world. In fact the coin market is among the most fickle of markets because people's emotions have a larger and greater impact on it than most other markets. I have watched the PCGS indexes for over 15 years. And in that time I have compared what the indexes tell you to what is reported in the numismatic press in the same time frames. Result, the indexes are valid, they do accurately reflect the overall trends in the coin market.

    Now there can be times when a specific series or a specific type does not follow the trend of the indexes for a given period of time. But these are the exceptions, not the rule. Taken on the whole, the indexes are extremely accurate in reporting trends.
     
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  12. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    Thanks for the link.

    There are always outliers that defy indexes. Of course, I'm referring to the stock markets, but I believe the same must be true for the coin market as well.
     
  13. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

  14. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Interesting graph and how the index was straight up and down. Thanks for sharing.
     
  15. centsdimes

    centsdimes Active Member

    Most of those coins are uncirculated. How come?
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    They include circulated grades in the indexes. But the circ grades are outnumbered by the MS grades for a couple of reasons. 1 - there are more MS grades, and 2 - as a general rule the greatest interest of collectors is in the MS grades. This is especially true of the more modern dates. Few collect the circ grades of the more modern dates because they are just too common and have little to no value.

    The coins contained in the indexes are the coins that are most frequently traded.
     
  17. centsdimes

    centsdimes Active Member

    Thanks. I have an unusual collection, I guess, since I only have a few uncirculated coins, most of which are in my type set.
     
  18. GoldenLager

    GoldenLager New Member

    My unscientific study over the past 4-5 years is the low grade Draped Cents have been steadily increasing on cost.
     
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