There is a dime I would like to buy that is in a ICG slab and is FB or I think even FT reverse. I'm worried that ICG graded this coin an MS67 and NGC or PCGS would grade it 66 or could it even go to 65??? To be clear, I'm not saying that when I look at the coin I think it was graded too high. I'm not qualified to assume that. But I'm worried that the big 2 might think so. I personally have no reason to think it is anything other than a 67. Question is: Is it very likely that ICG would call a 65 coin a 67? (I wouldn't be crushed if it came back a 66.....)
To answer your question without studying your coin too closely, the short answer is yes. ICG does not have a good reputation in their grading. I bought this one that they have graded as F12 without any issues (it's clearly been cleaned and retoned).
Even at MS67 it isn't worth the cost of slabbing. It's a nice coin either way - just keep the slab you have.
If PCGS certified it as MS67 FB then their price guide has it at $2000. I usually bank on half of their numbers.....so ya, I'd be happy with a $1000 coin with less than $100 in it.
Because it's not hard to see the bottom band of the torch is incomplete, as are some of the verticals at the top. It's not FT. If it were FT, value would obviously be quite different.
There is a reason I said.... FB doesn't require the vertical lines to be perfect last I heard. And I feel safe saying that this coin is debatable as to whether or not it is Full Bands. I would know for sure once it is in my hands and looked at with my loop. I get that you mean well with your input, but I'm really not looking for advice on whether or not I should get it re-slabbed. I just wanted to see if majority thought ICG could be 2 points off.
Roosevelts don't get "Full Bands." They get "Full Torch," for which both horizontals and verticals must be complete according to NGC's own definition. Might want to confirm that before you spend the money on a submission. And if your imagery doesn't show the reverse as detailed as it actually is, I'll happily change my tune.
Correct. But, PCGS is more lenient. The PCGS "Full Bands" designation for Roosevelts requires that both the upper and lower pair of bands on the torch be distinct and show full separation. The line dividing the bands must be complete and unbroken. http://www.pcgs.com/News/Pcgs-To-Add-Full-Bands-Designation-For-Roosevelt-Dimes
We're not arguing though. I was merely pointing out the differences between the 2 TPGs. And not just for you, but for anyone who reads this thread.
This coin won't get pass 65 with pcgs or ngc, and this is why . Veins have left the acorn leaves and the nobs are gone on the acorn shells too ... At least from these image showing ....