1890 CC

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Pickin and Grinin, Dec 3, 2015.

  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    . I am looking at a circulated Morgan. It is probably in the VF20 range. Nics, dings etc.If I was to have it graded? Dose any one have a trusted percentage, below coin book pricing. Just to break even?
     
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  3. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    "Nics, dings, etc"... how severe are we talking? The first concern should be IF it will clean grade; a coin like this returning in a genny holder is basically money flushed down the drain.

    Now, not all coins need to be entombed, and a well circulated 90-CC certainly could fall into this category, so may I ask why you feel it necessary? Also, what is "coin book pricing", and why do you feel it has any basis in reality?

    As for some sort of "trusted percentage", it's not quite that simple, especially if you're not able to piggyback it with other coins to reign in costs. You're better off crafting the numbers to your own situation, first meaning how much is it going to cost YOU, in total, to get that coin into (X TPG's) slab. Next, you need to know how much (a reasonable range) THAT coin will be "worth" in that slab (if cleanly graded at the level you think), which, in reality, may not line up with whatever this "book" says. It's one thing if doing this for your collection, but if for resale, now you have to consider what, after purchase, acquisition, submission, etc expenses, it's going to cost to sell the coin and still allow for a fair profit. Again, it's not always as simple as "X - Y = Z so I can pay $X". A generic percentage on (as an example) a $5000 coin wouldn't quite work on a $100, would it?

    Beyond this, you're buying a RAW coin with a very modest best-case value, so the seller might not be okay with eating your submission expenses. Sometimes, if you want slabbed (if a collector) it's best to just buy slabbed, especially if one's grading, problem, or counterfeit identification skills are not what they should be.
     
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  4. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    '90 and '91 CC's. I have $185 in the pair, which may or may not be good. I felt like it was fair. The '91 is NGC graded VF25.
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  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I also had the damaged in thought. Real nice 90'
    Just looking for an adjusted price to the seller. I think I can get the coin for my first CC. Definately not a clean coin. He has an 84S that would grade for 28$
     
  6. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    @Pickin and Grinin

    If you want a coin for your first CC, why don't you get a certified '82CC or '84CC in MS64? It's a lot more bang for your buck.

    Chris
     
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  7. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Again, if it wouldn't grade cleanly (no problem), there's no reason to consider subitting and there should be no adjustments made to pay for it. As for the 84-S, grade is everything. If well circulated, even if problem free, it's not going to be worth the expense and is, as mentioned before, one of the majority of coins that do not need or have any real business being slabbed.

    As for an "adjusted price", if the seller is willing and understands it's not necessary, that's fine, but one cannot rightfully search out raw coins and expect to be discounted submission fees, especially with a coin like this that shouldn't remotely be questioned when offered raw. If the guy wants $28 for the 84-S, you certainly can't come at him with a "but it's going to cost me $35 (or whatever... even a piggybacked $10 ANACS special) to get it in a holder". If you like the coin/coins and find the as-is price is reasonable, buy them. If not, don't.
     
  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    From your description, near melt would be fair
     
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  9. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    any coin will 'grade'.

    the question is what grade.
     
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  10. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The guy thinks that just because it is a CC. He wants top dollar. Thanks for the info. I will probably just pass on the coin. It would fill a spot in the Dansco though.
     
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  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    sorry, I just noticed the date above, I thought generic silver $.

    I correct myself, about the above post, but...

    still not worth slabbing
     
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  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I was thinking I might give him 90$
     
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  13. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    For an 1890-CC - these had a high survival rate in my anecdotal experience, and are easily found in circulated condition - $90 is excessive for a raw VF in my opinion. That's what the market says they're worth (roughly) already in a slab.
     
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  14. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    Normal wear 1890CC PCGS VF-20 (no damage) have been selling for $90-$130. A reputable TPG Company Slab simply tells the buyer, someone or group with an educated approximation figured that coin's grade and it is genuine based upon known attributes. It is almost impossible in this market to calculate the cost of TPG submission fees, shipping fees or insurances into the cost of a coin.
    When buying a coin find your comfort zone .... 1. Find a current issue of a coin magazine with prices. Look at legitimate coin auctions for pricing. 2. Are you an experienced grader? If not a good grader or are unfamiliar with the type, start with low cost coins of a specific denomination and have your educated friends give an you an opinion(Join a Coin Club) (Post Pictures on this site) 3. If you do not have the time or confidence buy reputable TPG coins. Coin Account balancing has never worked out for me .. buy and grade on specifics.
     
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