Massive Quadruple Struck Lincoln Cent

I'm guessing that you don't know how the Mint makes anything either.

Chris

 

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Sheesh...ya wonder why I'm not on this forum very often...this is the forum that poo poo'd my error Morgan dollar that came back genuine. I've had this looked at by some "seasoned" coin collectors and they are still not sure. I guess I'll continue to avoid this forum...some great comradery here!

Remember this coin? I heard crickets after it came back genuine...

 

I can make it....im gona go try

 

You are a great help!

 

BTW what is a "Tilted Partial Collar"?

 

They didn't see that was a partial collar here? You can see it in the slab, fer crying out loud.

So, jrr888, rather than just blow you off, I'll ask a simple and obvious question: How can a coin struck multiple times have one single continuous rim?

 

I'm not sure. That is why I thought I'd post it here but all I get is BS responses from so called experts...

 

Here's a collar:



Imagine it coming loose relative to the coin, and tilting so that the reeds don't completely cover the sides of the planchet. Part of the resulting coin will be reeded, and part will flow into the space which should have been occupied by the collar, creating what we call a Railroad Rim:



The collar isn't always tilted; the Morgan above must have been pretty close to parallel, just out of place. That's a partial collar.

 

Two separate steps in the planchet -> strike process have to survive undamaged for a coin like yours to happen: The upset rim which moves metal to the outside of the planchet to have enough there to strike the rim, and the complete rim formed by the strike. Keep in mind, we're talking 150 tons of pressure here. A second hit on an area already struck is going to completely - or near it - obliterate what's below. It's a physical impossibility for those previous details to survive; paddyman's images illustrate this.

Your coin was hit by something with far less force than a Mint press.

 

Simple. Some type of cutting tool intended for creating holes which requires that the user smack it with a hammer.

 

Did you take these photos on a 1906 $20 Gold Certificate?

 

Look. With regard to the original coin posted in this thread, it is obviously something done post minting. It's obvious to see not to mention the fact that there is "nothing" in the minting process which would create such an effect on the Obverse of a coin.
Nothing.

And then there's the reverse of the coin in question.

It appears that the coin was placed on a hard yet porous surface and then repeated smacked with some type of tool with enough force to actually cut into the obverse yet squash the details flat on the reverse.

Take a cent out to the sidewalk and smack it really hard with a hammer. You'll see similar looking damage in the surface which came in contact with the sidewalk.

It's not really rocket science and the collection of authentic error coins requires that the collector have some familiarity with the minting process OTHER THAN "well it looks like an error to me."

 

It's getting sent out to the pro's. Thanks for the input fellas.

 

Really?! I'm guessing you got the misguided Chinese counterfit treatment with people jumping on the bandwagon then? That's obviously a RR and boy am I jelous!

 

I know their answers will be disappointing to you. Or will you just accuse them of being know-nothings, too?

 

The track record here isn't that great. You must be one of those know it all's too.

This is what I'm talking about, I've never seen a forum full of people who just troll and insult people. Some of us aren't as smart as y'all...

 

Yessir!

 

Everyone here, some of them professionals themselves, have told you what it is. You've chosen not to believe them. Perhaps this hobby is not for you.
Edited: rules.

 

When you get over being butt-hurt, hopefully you will let us amateurs know the expert's opinion.

 

That's wrong buddy! We gave you truthful answers. It's a damaged coin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOT AN ERROR!