Ikes

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  1. bdunnse

    bdunnse Who dat?

    "...raises the question..."
     
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  3. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Not for me .

    I look for variety and some can bring some nice money when slabbed .

    As for everyone else, thats up to them for slabbing ..
    Some are building sets ....
     
  4. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    From what I understand the modern stuff is graded on a mass scale, those having the coins grade are paying *significantly* less than you. But in some cases, yes the roulette wheel is spun quite a bit as well.
     
  5. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    I own a 1971 Brown Box Ike graded PF69"*" by NGC. It's still in the GSA like holder. When I bought it, there was no haze. I'll have to check it again to make sure the OGP hasn't ruined it.
     
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  6. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Our we still talking about Ikes, or have we changed to other coins ( Modern ) getting graded ?

    No Ikes can be graded by bulk volume ....
     
  7. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    They were "modern" once upon a time...
     
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  8. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    If you look at most details graded coins, the label states "Improperly Cleaned".
    PCGS's grading standards states: "Code 92 Cleaning Harsh cleaning or polishing"
    "Cleaned
    Surface damage due to any form of abrasive cleaning. "Cleaned" covers a wide range or appearances, from a grossly polished coin to one where faint hairlines can be seen only at a particular angle or in only one area on an otherwise perfectly normal coin. This is perhaps the most frustrating of all the No Grades, because subtle cleaning is often difficult to detect in less-than-optimal grading conditions. "Dipping" (the removal of toning with a chemical bath) is not considered cleaning under this definition."

    Therefore, to say that an untarnished 1974-S Proof IKE has been "Cleaned" is technically correct BUT collectibly acceptable. After all, who would want to collect on of these with undesirable haze (from the US Mint) and/or undesirable toning? Not to mention that toning can actually affect the surfaces of the coin furthering the possibilities of damage.

    Is it a "Fool's" errand to try and sell it? Of course not BUT you might be looking at a long and difficult search since the ONLY way you'd know for sure is by purchasing one in the original US Mint slab.
     
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  9. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Bulk Submissions only run $12 per coin but you gotta send in a minimum of 100 coins. Most dealers take advantage of this option in the hopes of getting a couple of high grade coins to pay for the rest.
     
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  10. Rick Stachowski

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  12. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    So I finally took the plunge and gave the ole' dip trick a whirl today.

    A 1972 Silver Ike proof, which I'm 99% sure was pulled from the same type of plastic case. You'll see in the pics it had "that haze" they are well known for. Mine wasn't AS hazy, but it was certainly noticeable. Used EZest (@mikenoodle and @LostDutchman inspired me to give it a try :rolleyes: ) I think for being my first go at it that I can log it as a success. I still see a bit of haze left, but for the most still a good looking coin. The pics below are same coin just different lighting situations.

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    The process I used was the exact same as what Mike covered on the last episode of the coin show. I had been wanting to try this, but just needed the nudge.

    The only difference I had was I live out in a rural area. In order to refrain from using softened well water I heated up some distilled water and after the dip I rinsed the coin by pouring the hot water from one container over the coin into a different container and back....multiple times.

    1972SilverIkeProof.jpg

    1972SilverIkeProofReflect.jpg
     
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  13. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Welcome! Ikes are like 90% of what I dip when I use ezest. It works wonders on them. Both the haze of proofs and for the dark blah type toning on business strikes. Boy do they brighten right up and don't even look like anything nefarious was done to them. Ikes like the blue pool :)
     
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  14. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    still chucklin' over this
     
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