Post your nickels

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by zach67005, Feb 15, 2012.

  1. Santinidollar

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    Where's the grade on the sticker?
     
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  3. Tom Jefferson

    Tom Jefferson New Member

    Hi, wondering what the veterans would think the grade should be before I disclose what the expensive "professionals" graded it.
     
  4. Santinidollar

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  5. Santinidollar

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    The middle of Monticello looks chopped up. I will take a stab with AU-55
     
  6. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    My MS64 looks about that bad. I'll say... MS64.
     
  7. Tom Jefferson

    Tom Jefferson New Member

    A little better contrast showing that "chopped up" Monticello....as well as Mr. Jefferson's cut-up face.

    nickel grade - Copy.jpg
     
  8. Tom Jefferson

    Tom Jefferson New Member

    Was your MS64 a PCGS slab? There seems to be a general consensus (and the opinion of the top guys like Lehigh) that PCGS is significantly tougher on Jeff nickels, and perhaps everything else.
     
  9. Santinidollar

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    Mr.Jefferson seems to have had a bad time with his straight razor. There appears to be a scratch and an absolute gouge on his jaw.

    I'm no grading expert by a long shot but I think that drops it to AU details at best.
     
  10. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    Yes sir - PCGS.
     
  11. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    Well since you left the cert number up it should get 100% guessed right
     
  12. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    '37 D 3 legs...
    1937 D 3 legs xf45.jpg
     
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  13. Santinidollar

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    No cheating! LOL
     
  14. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    1952 Jefferson
    MS 63
    Should be grade but if better I can not see way.my2¢
     
  15. Santinidollar

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    Moving along on the early Jefferson proofs:
    IMG_20151130_125400693_HDR.jpg IMG_20151130_125417186_HDR.jpg
     
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  16. fish4uinmd

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  17. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Nice PR65 1941!
    Pcgs has only graded 99 more above PR65-PR68 population reported. Ngc I don't know population reported only can Google so much with phone.
     
  18. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Ok, first things first. If you want to hide the grade of a PCGS coin, you must hide the grade and the numbers over the bar code. The first four numbers (4046) relate to the type of coin and the two numbers after the period (66) are the grade of the coin. Additionally, anyone can take the serial number (numbers after /) and do a certification lookup on the PCGS site and find the grade.

    Now about the actual coin. This coin is overgraded, there simply is no way to justify an MS66 grade and most people wouldn't feel comfortable with this coin in an MS65 slab. The problem is that both PCGS and NGC allow for planchet flaws on Jefferson Nickels without detrimentally affecting the grade. Remnant planchet flaws are common on Jefferson's cheek, jaw, and upper coat collar. On this coin there are a mixture of remnant planchet flaws and marks. There is a very large mark on Jeff's jaw which can't possibly be a planchet flaw. Then there is a series of marks that appear to be post mint but could be planchet flaws. And finally there are is some light planchet roughness on both jaw line and upper coat collar.

    My guess is that the grader who probably isn't going to spend much time grading a 1952 Jefferson Nickel, saw the obverse, figured it was all planchet roughness, missed the huge mark on Jeff's jaw, and graded it MS66. Other than that area of the coin, it does qualify for MS66. The mushiness of the strike is typical for 1952 as are planchet flaws. The small nick in the steps might bother the full step Jeff collector but it is not enough to drop it from the ranks of MS66 as long as there are not too many other marks. On the positive side, the coin seems to have good luster for a 1952 and the toning and eye appeal are outstanding for this date/mm.

    In case some of you are unclear about what I am referring to when I said remnant planchet roughness, please look at my 1952 Jefferson Nickel NGC MS67. There are no major marks on the coin but the planchet roughness is very evident on the jaw and coat collar. It is very important to understand that neither PCGS or NGC penalizes the grade of a Jefferson Nickel for this roughness.

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    So while I agree with you Tom Jefferson that your coin is egregiously overgraded, my question for you is why did you buy the coin if you knew it was overgraded?
     
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  19. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    MS63÷MS67= $. Means someone who won got shot end of stick.
    And
    Since most likely wasn't sent to Pcgs by you .
    U Won it. I hope you didn't buy for grade
     
  20. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    1939 rev of 38 125.jpg A couple nice 66 Proof Jefferson's 39 rev. of 40 and a 42 type 1 1939 Pf.66 Jefferson 39 rev. 40.jpg 1942 pf.66 Type 1 Jefferson.jpg
     
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  21. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    1916 Buffalo MS 65.jpg Here this one is for Jerry 1937 D Buffalo Nickel XF.jpg
     
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