How should I handle modern "investment coins" from the US Mint

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  1. Dancing Fire

    Dancing Fire Junior Member

    Don't waste your money on modern coins!
     
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  3. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I used to think that proof sets ALWAYS went up.
     
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  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    They do, but it is usually to the attic!

    Chris
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    In other words, as long as your crystal ball is working you'll do OK.

    I would agree that there is a chance, but a "pretty good chance", ehhh no. Now the odds of it remaining stagnant or going down in value, yeah, there is a very good chance that is what will happen.

    Of all the new coins that are released only a tiny percentage of them increase in value and hold that value. All you have to do to see this is to look back over the last 30 + years. In all that time there have been but a small handful of coins that have increased in value and held that value. But there have been huge numbers of them that did not. And some you can even buy cheaper today than when they were issued.
     
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  6. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    Nine out of ten (or more!) people who try this loose money, including yours truly. And I have been at it a very long time. As far as holding ten years? I recommend 30 years, which seems to be the cycle for the metals lately. Even thirty years doesn't do it for some, or fifty years either.

    Take a look at 1950D nickels, for example. In the late 50's and very early 60's they where wholesaling on the "investment" market for about $1200.00/roll. The highest buy that was recently offered me for five BU original rolls was $295.00/roll.
     
  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    OGP stands for original government packaging which is how the product came from the mint. Most of us, who purchase moderns, like to leave the item in the OGP. There are some, however, who like their moderns slabbed and that's OK too.....just gonna cost you more. Decide what you want to do and heed some of the advice given to you in the above post. These guys know their stuff. :)
     
  8. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Let's make a list of stuff that has done well, long term.
    Gold from 30 years back.
    The 95W silver eagle but it was free.
    Maybe one or two of the first silver proof state quarter sets.
    What did I miss?
     
  9. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    2001 Buffalo (silver) commem........(still waiting for the price to drop on these)
     
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  10. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    It boils down to what you consider an appropriate timeframe for "investment." If you choose to think no more than 5 years out, these "coins" might be a worthwhile course. If you plan to flip quickly and can ride the wave of popularity with non-experts better than the other eleventy-bazillion people who are doing the same thing.

    Otherwise, the things which create value with numismatic people who get it - genuine rarity, historic significance as circulating coinage - simply don't apply here. None of the features which make a Morgan a worthwhile investment for me exist here. There is no factual, reality-based appeal, just aesthetic. They're lumps of metal with additional value simply because the buyer thinks they have that value. The rarest of Modern issues - NIFC or not - would be a pretty hefty production issue for most Classics. It's taking a big chance to bet on the continued existence of a market large enough to maintain demand for so many examples, and an even bigger chance to believe that ephemeral market will be here at all in any "long term" sense. So many Mints in so many countries are exploiting this market that I'm minded of Beanie Babies. What happens when people finally realize that there's more than enough for everyone?
     
  11. spenser

    spenser Active Member

    Don't expect the Truman coin and chronicles set to go anywhere but up! Leave the set ungraded in the original packaging.
     
  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I forgot about that one.
    Also forgot about the 1995 and 96 Olympics Commemorative coins.
    That puts us at 4 or 5 items that have done well long term.
    Please add to the list.
     
  13. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    They do seem to command more money in OGP.
     
  14. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    You forgot every regular non-silver proof set made between 1968 and 1999! Those have been real hits! Lol :smuggrin:
     
  15. Dancing Fire

    Dancing Fire Junior Member

    Now name all the losers...:D
     
  16. bwdul

    bwdul Member

    If you buy anything at retail not wholesale its pretty tough to realize a profit,coins,guitars whatever it is.....
     
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  17. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Absolutely!

    Instead......waste your money on Classic collectible Coins! I did..........you can to!

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    The reality of the situation is that money CAN be made in the Modern Coin Arena.

    BUT

    It takes knowledge, money, guts, a venue for selling, buyers who believe in YOU, and persistence.

    Very few US Mint products over the past 15 years have had sustained aftermarket prices. Those that have, are long gone for "new folks". What this means is that those 1998 Kennedy Special Mint Set coins "were" a good investment purchase when they were initially sold but are now "NOT" a good investment since it's doubtful that prices will ever go up to what the "were" when they were hot.

    99% of US Mint Proof and Uncirculated sets are currently available for LESS than what they originally sold for and you CANNOT take that to the bank.

    To handle Modern Coin "investment Coins" from the US Mint, you have to dump them as quickly as possible "when the market is hot" because if you don't, then you'll be stuck holding a plastic bag of ice cubes on a 98 degree day. The longer you hold onto that bag, the few ice cubes you'll have.
     
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2015
  18. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    It doesn't sum up any better than this.
     
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  19. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Modern coins are very nice as collectibles, if you like them. I happen to collect high grade ones, and enjoy them very much. In terms of investment value, unless one wishes to flip them immediately, very few moderns have investment potential. The exception to this is certain series with very low populations (e.g. certain dates of high grade Kennedy halves with very low populations--specialized collectors like me go for them). Moderns should be for one's own enjoyment, and not for investment potential.
     
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  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It did drop, a loooooong time ago. They used to sell for $400-$500, recent sales on Heritage were $111 & $135, MS & PF.
     
  21. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I feel it can go lower.......just bidding my time. :)
     
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