Trio of Caracalla Denarii

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  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    No cleaning - they don't need it. Right now I'm going to enjoy them - I may keep the Serapis.
     
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  3. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    I wonder if we combined our Caracalla coins if we could get a good portraiture series showing his aging? Here's my two again:

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    Imperial Rome
    Caracalla, r. 198-217 A.D. (205 A.D.)
    Rome Mint, AR Denarius, 17mm x 3.3. grams
    Obv.: ANTONINVS PIVS AVG, Laureate bust right, draped
    Rev.: LIBERALITAS AVGG V, Liberalitus standing left, holding abacus and cornucopia
    Ref.: RIC IVi, 136b (?)

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    Imperial Rome
    Caracalla, r. 198-217 A.D. (211 A.D.)
    Rome Mint, AR Denarius, 17.5mm x 2.8 grams
    Obv.: ANTONINVS PIVS AVG BRIT, Head of Caracalla, laureate, right
    Rev.: P M TR P XIIII COS III P P; Pax, draped, advancing left, holding branch in right hand and sceptre in left hand
    Ref.: RIC IV Caracalla 184 (?)
     
  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  5. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Just to change it up a bit, here's an eastern mint portrait. Struck AD 298, so when he was about 10?

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    CARACALLA
    AR Denarius
    3.44g, 18.8mm
    Laodicea ad Mare, AD 298
    RIC 337d; RSC 168e
    O: IMP C M AVR ANTON AVG P TR P, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    R: MONETA AVG, Moneta standing left, holding scales and cornucopia.
     
  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Nice. There's that copper again. It's got to be for insufficient pickling. @FitzNigel's coins also.
     
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  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    There are enough dated types that you could get a set by year with few exceptions. I can think of many worse gameplans.

    I see deposits and toning but don't think it has to do with alloy. I can be wrong (ask my wife).
     
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  8. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Yeah, it's not terribly important to me whether it's toning or alloy actually. Just ruminating...
     
  9. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Interesting... I had always figured it was just the toning.

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  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    My OP coin looks very similar to yours up close, Z - not deposits, but the actual color of copper in the metal, hence my conjecture about the pickling process. Doug seems to think otherwise, but like I said, I'm not glued to the idea.
     
  11. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I find the colour a little closer to gold than copper, but it's an interesting question... I think I have some other Severan denarii with similar colouring and have seen Gordian III period ants that look positively yellow. Definitely worth a closer look.
     
  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I'd prefer you not do this but the question could be answered by cleaning the coin. If the color is toning, it will be removed. If it is excess copper, it will become more red. Either way the coin looks worse so I'd prefer the mystery remain in place.
     
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