HELP: Fourre to ID

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by KIWITI, Nov 11, 2015.

  1. KIWITI

    KIWITI Well-Known Member

    A friend of mine is preparing his criminalistic thesis based on ancient (and modern) coin counterfeit and its technics.
    He bought this badly shaped fourre and asked me to ID it, but it seems quite elusive for me to do it. For example, I cannot relate reverse legend to its deity, it looks like it is Ceres (or Diana Lucifera) because it has a torch, but those deities are generally associated with female characters. Also, reverse legend is mispelled, sort of "APODVC" (?).

    Anyway, here are the pictures.

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    Any help will be greatly appreciated. ;)
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    The portrait looks like Severus Alexander.
     
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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Severus Alexander is my guess as well
     
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  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    My hasty guess: the reverse is Fortuna, perhaps copying RIC 196 with some blundering.

    From CNG's archives:

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    IMP SEV ALEXANDER AVG, laureate head right, drapery on left shoulder / FORTVNA REDVCI, Fortuna standing left, holding rudder on globe and cornucopia
     
  6. KIWITI

    KIWITI Well-Known Member

    Yes, I believe you nailed it. But on your example Fortuna holds a cornucopia, not a torch. :bored: Could that be an "artistic license"?
     
  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Or just poor artistry. Or perhaps it is a torch, and the reverse doesn't match any of his official denarii.
     
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  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow, KIWITI => that's a very sweet fourree ... I really like it when they are a bit raunchy and start to peel (very cool)

    Oh, and TIF => being smart and pretty is a lethal combo (great coin sleuthing)

    :rolleyes:

    Ummm, I have a fourree that is also starting to show quite a bit of its underwear


    Kings of Macedon Fourree.jpg
     
  9. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Thanks, Steve-O. It was just a hasty guess though... perhaps someone else can come up with a better alternative.
     
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  10. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    Tell your friend that counterfeiting was invented the day after money was.
     
  11. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Cool fourree all around.
     
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  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

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  13. KIWITI

    KIWITI Well-Known Member

    Thanks Doug, he´s following this thread and is very thankfull for anyone´s opinions and comments.
    He says he´ll take your suggestion into account, (altough it has become a gigantic work just to gather all the info) he apreciates it very much.
     
  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Theseus was a Greek hero who gained success by overcoming impossible obstacles of monsterous proportions. 'Thesis' is a term paper that requires similar levels of effort and, perhaps, a little good fortune along the way. I doubt the vowel change denotes any really significant differences.
     
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