New Variety of Shield Nickel

yes it does and I'm sure it is. Just struck me funny when looking at your reverse something caught my eye that look familiar. Perhaps a different die state, and Ive never seen a reverse shield with 8 broken letters.

 

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The 5 is strike doubled and/or Longacre doubled. Very common. Broken letters on reverse IIc are also very common and result from broken working hubs.

 

Not a die stage at all. It's a working hub stage.

No one has ever attempted a census of broken letters on Rev. IIc (it would be an enormous job). I believe I've seen them with up to 10 broken letters. If you want to research this, I'd suggest reviewing Heritage's completed auction photos.

 

BTW, correct usage of "stage" vs "state":

Die states are the result of wear to a die.

Die stages are the result of a visible change to a die (e.g., a crack, a cud).

It is quite possible for a die to be an early die state and a late die stage (e.g., if it cracks early in its life). It is also possible for a die to be a late die state and an early die stage if the only change in the die is wear.

Confusing, I know.

 

Ok thanks for the info .

 

So Howard is the op nickel a new variety. And yes I know you like to see the coin in hand as I have sent you quite a few coins in the past year.

 

Yes, it is a new variety. It is no longer common for me to encounter a new DDO that is not an 1868, so I was very pleased to learn about this one from PatternCollector. This is only the second non-1868 DDO this year that is new to me (the other was an 1873).

OTOH, I found another new 1868 DDO just a couple days ago. I have 70 different DDOs catalogued for 1868, and just determining whether one is new or not is a big job.

 

Yes somewhat but still willing to learn more on shields . I do collect variety coins, but these days I've have found a true interest in shields and half dimes. 9 times out of 10 at a show WILL opt. To purchase one or the other. No matter if it's a variety or not. When I find a coin I like it's
sometimes just eye appeal . Even though I may have several the same date ie 1868 and 69's shields. Even have purchased some knowing that they were Longacre doubling if the coin is appealing .

 

Oh I'm sure it is..... I also have an 1883/2 to send you to confirm its the odd one the rule breaker. I'm about 90 % sure it is. But would like to have it attributed to get it graded,

 

I can almost always tell from a photo if it's any 1883/2 provided the date is sufficiently large. For the variety you reference, check to make sure there is the tip of a 1 protruding from the top of the first 8.

 

All the info is great! Also welcome Howard Spindel to CoinTalk

 

Howard has been here for 12 years, he just doesn't post a lot.

 

I see. I was mistaken, in an email I had gotten from him I thought he said he made an account to comment on this post. At any rate the knowledge is very welcome!

 

At the time I made the comment to PatternCollector, I didn't remember I had an account here. So it's my mistake, not his.

 

No matter Howard! We are glad you are here and that we can learn something from you. It's greatly appreciated

 

I recently found a second example of this new 1869 DDO. Not nearly as nice a grade, though.

Still plenty of things to discover in shield nickels!