1882-CC Received Wrong Coin, What to do/What Would it Grade?

I recently bought this coin on eBay, here is the original listing:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262101973125?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

As you can see, I bought it because it was DMPL. Here is the coin I received:

What should I do? I think this is pretty nice for GSA, but some more seasoned opinions would be appreciated. Who knows, maybe the seller is on here.

 

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what makes u think its wrong coin? those die cracks across "STATES" match up perfectly...among other things

 

Tricky one. I have had buyers accuse me of shipping the wrong coin before, but to this date, I have thankfully never done that. Sometimes pictures can either make a coin look better or worse than it really is, but I have always been able to spot a ding or mark that lines up. I am not seeing some of those line up on yours. If you are happy with it, keep it, if you are not, request a return. If they decline, file a claim. Do not file a claim though if they are willing to work with you.

 

Send it back .
The seller photo shop the hell out of them .
Images were taken to fool,the buyer .
The flet is black, not blue .

 

I'm not convinced you received a different coin. The sellers photos are clearly taken in an optimistic manner - what you see in hand is almost guaranteed to look differently, without exactly the right light and angle. He's done a little bit of photo editing as well, but not nearly as much as others I've seen.

If you aren't happy with it, let the seller know. There is no reason to keep a coin you don't like, or isn't as good in hand as what you hoped. If you don't like it - return it. The seller should work with you and understand that you want to return it.

 

Don't know if serious, totally different coins, different COA number as well.

 

Thanks but I thought it would be a no-brainer to see that they were different coins, from the mirrors to the bag marks on the cheeks, in addition to the different COA numbers (that I didn't include).

The coin in the listing is DMPL, the one I have is not. I don't think something as nefarious as photoshop was involved, Occam's razor would dictate it was simply a mix up and he sent the wrong coin.

I was just wondering what you think the grade would be, or if it looked good.

 

That's basically where I'm at. The coin I bought was DMPL, but baggy. This one is not, but has a cleaner cheek. But I paid more than MS64 money for it, so the question would be if it was a 65 coin, which is hotly debated sometimes.

 

Here is the listing for the coin I received, the COA number matches what I received:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1882-CC-MOR...923533?hash=item3d0383064d:g:jmIAAOSw37tV-ezE

 

I have also been accused of touching up pictures. People really under-estimate how coins look different at different angles/light. I have never touched up any pictures. Your coin was pretty obviously a different one though, as no marks lined up.

 

duh.....

 

That coin as pictured above is an almost certain 65. It is nice and clean, with great luster. The question is, do you want it? It certainly isn't a baggy DMPL, if that is what you were looking for--NO WAY a DMPL. So it is up to you--that is a nice coin, but certainly not as you expected. Don't get hung up on grades with GSAs. Unless it is a 66 or above, there isn't a huge price difference. Moreover, there are so many nice 1882-1884cc GSAs to choose from, that one can have their pick, pretty much of exactly the type of coin that they want. If you paid 64 money for it, I don't see what the problem is? That coin looks 65 to me, and I would NOT BOTHER sending it in, as the price bump isn't worth it.

 

That's basically what I was looking for. The other coin was maybe 62-63 DMPL. This one is what I would consider a 65, but just wanted to check with others. The thing is, you can get a 64 for around 200-250, but I paid a lot more than that. I just wanted to make sure the value was in the same range as the price paid.

I will disagree about sending it in, simply because I am pretty new to the coin world and I find it exciting to send coins in and compare the grades I had in my mind to the ones they give (although sometimes they are wrong). I don't think I'll be selling any of these, but over time their value will go higher, so it's nice to have a grade tied to it.

 

I feel people can be cynical, I am pretty certain this guy didn't do anything with the photos. From the listing, it looked like he could barely take a photo to begin with.

 

Get the NGC ribbon and don't crack it out. GSAs have more value in the holder than raw submitted GSA Morgans--take it from an old pro.

 

Absolutely, I would never crack out a GSA Morgan

 

1. Don't waste your time trying to buy a DMPL off eBay, his lighting enhanced whatever that coin had going for it. Long term that is a losing proposition.

2. I think they are different coins based on hits, marks and the polishing of the clashes which are a different die state.

3. Not worth grading, contact seller, even file a snad if need be the coin looks 64 and is worth about $260, you are already buried in it so don't make it worse.

 

With the new pictures, and COA, I'll agree that the coin is different.

As for value: the coin you originally bid on was a 62-63PL (I don't think it'll make DPL). Its worth around $300. You paid a fair price for that coin, but not worth submitting.

The coin you received is a 64 (no PL). Its worth around $300. You paid a fair price for that coin, but not worth submitting. Its also not what you wanted, so I'd say return it. Again, contact the seller, and work with him.

Why are people are jumping to SNADs and reports and all sorts of extreme measures. The guy made a mistake, let him correct it. You don't need to take the nuclear option on him.

 

One problem I see is that someone bought the coin you received expecting to get it and now isn't going to.

 

Some good advice already posted, but I'll concur, the coin in the listing is not the coin you received.

What matters is what you want for your collection? Do you want a high grade (MS65) or a DPL? There are plenty of DPL's available in the common dates. Based on the sellers pics, I wouldn't guarantee that coin to grade as a DPL. It does appear to have reflective mirrors, but it might only go PL.

If you want a DPL, buy one off eBay that's already been graded with that designation. You'll end up saving yourself the heartburn.