Okay I was reviewing a few rolls of coins and I found this particular 1940 Lincoln wheat cent and apparently on the obverse has the printing of the word Liberty on it below the shoulder line or at least and have some kind of cramping like I cannot sell whether it's exactly Liberty because I can't make out the letters but I am seems i am seeing an R and ty in a while but it looks like it's like upside down or right side up what is a picture of it you tell me what you see
You bet. The last one on the far right is about to come off. It just needs a little more circulation to help it along.
Here are some photos of more laminated Lincoln Cents: http://www.lincolncentsonline.com/laminations.html
You guys think this - - is due to a lamination ? Now I'll grant you, there is a lamination to the right of that, that you can see on the right edge of the picture. But those sure look like mirror image letters to me, the kind you get if 2 coins are put one on top of the other and hit with a hammer.
Yeah, I was wondering why everybody's calling it a lamination. Never seen a lamination in the shape of unconnected letters before.
I believe it to be all a Lamination. I have seen many Laminations like this one where some of the features resemble letters. If it were actual letters that were imprinted hard enough to leave that mark there would be damage on the Rim also. I know you are thinking of a Vise or Sandwich Coin PMD but I don't think this is the case.
I agree with Paddy. I've seen lamination errors that resemble letters. The far right area has another lamination that has not peeled off, yet. The size of what appears to be letters in reverse, even from the photo, are too large for another coin to be placed on top to create this. Given the date, it is 75 years old and it's seen a lot of wear. I'm sticking with my belief in it's a Lamination and nothing more. It just looks to clean to be PMD. On another note, Paddy, I liked your old avatar better. You had the only motion avatar. GDJMSP, try removing your sunglasses and look at this coin again.
Thanks.. I'm switching back to the original avatar. I'm not trying to prove anyone wrong especially a CT moderator who I truly respect. This is my opinion and like I have said I have seen Lams like this that are ragged. There are all kinds of Laminations and to understand them you have to see as many as possible This is a crazy one that I own - It's actually lifted up from the Obverse and still hanging on. I love to collect Lams and have seen similar ones to the OP's Cent. I had a few but have sold them over the years.
You nor me either one can "prove" anything Paddy since all we have to go on is pictures. I've seen lots and lots of laminations, and I've never seen one that looks like the OP's coin. But I have seen lots and lots of hammer jobs or squeeze jobs that look exactly like the OP's coin. As for the coin in your pic - that doesn't even come close to looking like letters, just crinkled metal that is common on laminations. But the OP, he has the coin in hand. And he's seen more than a few coins too, and he says they look like letters. So, his first hand opinion, coupled with what I see, is what drives my opinion of what it is. As for me being a moderator, that has, and should not have, anything to do with it. People seem to think that just because somebody is a moderator on this coin forum that that indicates they are knowledgeable about coins. Moderators on CoinTalk are NOT chosen for or because of their knowledge about coins or numismatics. You could know just about nothing about coins and still be chosen as a moderator for CT. That's because they are chosen for their other qualities, not what they know, or don't know, about coins. When it comes to talking about coins or being a coin enthusiast moderators are no different than any other member - they should only be given respect if and when they have earned it. Not because they are moderators.
Hehe.. I was just showing it off not comparing it to the OP's coin - Giving an example of different kinds of Laminations. I love to collect these errors. Maybe this Cent in question will remain a mystery.. peace
Rotated it, but it still really doesn't look like letters particularly. Also just noticed the deformations don't extend into the rim.
That coin is covered with laminations. There is one in front of his chin, on the bow tie (I think), below the tie (I think), and one below the bust on top of all on the bust. And, no, I do not think those are reverse letters.