1853 seated dime Large CUD at top of head !

I believe this coin is a new find for seated dime collectors. I have sent images to some collectors and got a great reply. Only one variety they have seen . check it out and if anyone would care to make a guess as to what it would be worth thanks. you can PM me anytime .

 

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Nice Cud . I searched my cud reference book, The Cud Book (1997) and did not see it. Thanks for sharing!

 

Looks like it to me.

 

Now is a cud a broken part of the die that involves the rim, or can it be a broken piece of the die anywhere causing a raised area ??

 

I believe cuds specifically involve the rim. If not, my understanding is that it is then a die chip or die break.

This one would be a cud since it involves the rim of the coin.

 

Yes it's a cud ,and cuds can be found on any denominations and any series . Nothing new as far as a new variety or error.

 

That is correct. This appears to be an attractive cud. As for rarity and value, you'll have to consult a series specialist. I wouldn't pay a huge premium for a cud myself, but some will.

 

Nice cud !!!!!

 

It is a new variety also, not just a CUD !

 

From the obverse it looks like a cud, but it looks like damage on the reverse in the same area, which makes me wonder if it couldn't be some sort of attempted repair.

 

Good eye C-B-D you're correct pmd , when posters don't use the full size option when posting I guess most don't even look at both the obv.and rev. that well.
And I will also add a cud on a coin is not a variety Nor Does It Make It A Variety .

 

The best answer would be to ask Gerry Fortin @ http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/

 

Maybe not - the metal was sucked into the obverse die to fill the void!! The planchet is only so thick to create a normal coin!!

 

Just wondering - is a cud actually a "variety" or just a mint error??

 

To my knowledge there are none listed as a variety and are not listed in the Red Book as an error. But I agree with C-B-D that is damage

 

I'm still not sure - the "jagged edges" of the "cud" looks like broken metal die not flowing molten metal application!

 

That's what I believe , sort of like the Blakesley effect on a clipped coin . I can't see how the metal would be raised if it was post mint damage unless someone melted some coin silver over the edge . @Jim M .

 

No. There will always be a weak spot opposite a large cud like this. A cud is formed when a piece of the die is broken and/or missing. The pressure to bring up the strike is formed by the compression of the planchet between the two dies. If part of one of the dies is missing, there will be no corresponding backing to create the pressure - and the design won't strike up properly.

In the broadest use of the term, it is a mint error in that there was an error with the die.

However, they are more appropriately considered a die state. Because we are talking about a die issue, this will fall under the category of a "variety." The best way to think about the difference is that an error will only occur to one coin- its basically a fluke. A variety will be present on all examples struck by that die (the same die strikes the first and last coin - the same RPM, DDO, etc., will be present on all coins struck). Die states track the changes of a die over its life (you can have multiple die states of the same variety). If you could gather all coins struck by this die, you would first see a perfect die, and then a crack would start to grow, and then the crack would get bigger. Later, a piece of the die might start to completely separate, until it finally falls off (and you are left with this cud). Each of these changes would be a different die state (and extreme collectors of well studied varieties will try to get one of each die state - especially for early federal coinage).

In summary - the variety would apply to all coins struck by that die. The die state applies to this end of life condition where the cud has developed.

 

Here's the pic of a cent's reverse on ebay , opposite the cud .

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And the coin color over the cud is consistent throughout