New Tiberius For My Set

Looks off because of the recent cleaning Bing mentioned?

 

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Bing, definitely get Martins opinion on Forum....and hopefully remove any doubt at all....He just confirmed my 'pressed fake' and I've already initiated a return protocol through e-Bay.

For me, only major auctions and a focus on 'quality over quantity' when I resume my normal bidding come January. Even though that means only about one or two coins per month thereafter.

 

Already did, but last look there were no replies. I think it's authentic as well.

That's why I purchased from a known dealer on Vcoins with a money back guarantee of authenticity.

Unless I get something definitive from someone, I believe I will return this coin. Without that definite nod, I will always wonder about it (I think Doug said that sometime in the past). Man, I was really looking forward to replacing my original, but fake, Tiberius!

 

you suck

 

Why, thank you so very much. That's high praise from you.

 

Hopefully you'll get some replies on Forvm. I'd say authentic too, though there are some roundish pits on the edge between 10 and 11 o'clock (obv) that would concern me enough to want to take a very close look at them.

 

I am on the fence about this one. Details look mushy in the first set but in the second set the coin looks OK, albeit over cleaned.

 

Martin looked at the images and thinks it looks authentic, just harshly cleaned. Whew, that makes me feel better.

 

It'll recover from the cleaning. If you have an older coin envelope, the type that had sulphur in the paper, put it in that. I save some of those old envelopes expressly for that reason - toning down harshly-cleaned silver.

 

Great news!

 

I do have the envelopes mentioned. I will put it inside for a while and hope for a good outcome. There are other's I value their opinions who haven't responded yet. I would like to hear from them. Perhaps today one or more with chime in, but I do feel much better.

BING!

 

I remain of the opinion that there are just going to be coins that bother me. They may be fake or they may be mistreated. It is hard to tell a real coin with abnormal surfaces from a fake similarly abused to make it look worse and, therefore, better. I do not like the coin whether it is real or fake so it causes me no problem. I could not be in the business of expertising coins (I am neither Sear nor Vagi). I believe that this coin is real but it remains, as Bing suggested, one that would lurk in my gut. There is a difference between what we believe and absolute fact. Maybe it is one to send off for a slab simply because it would be easy to sell to someone who buys the slab, not the coin. I have coins that I would not sell to someone who knows less than I do. I try to avoid buying more. I way be nearing time to stop buying coins. Fakers are getting better faster than I am.

Here is a fact. We have choices when it comes to expensive coins. We can pay through the nose and get one above reproach. We can buy a bargain model that comes with some sort of baggage (condition, fourree, fake?). We can just live without that coin and buy coins that make us feel good rather than apprehensive. I used to buy baggage. I'm now increasingly trending toward the other choices. I suspect I have all the Tiberius denarii I ever will (at least until the show I next attend).
fourree and rare

OK, I think, early plain leg chair

Also OK but very different style

fourree but the best style I have

Indian copy - one of my favorite coins

 

I'm with Doug, if some say it's real and some say it's real, it would linger cause I am not 100%. I would send it back till a better/100% comes along.

 

well, i thought it looked ok, for what that's worth....

 

Well, both Dionysos and Martin, give it a thumbs up with the caveat that they are making judgments from images. I'm more inclined to keep it at this point, but I did write the seller about my concerns. We'll see if he responds and what he has to say.

 

So far, there have been 57 views of my post at Forum without one response. Makes me wonder.

 

I wouldn't read any meaning into that, at least as to whether the viewers think it is fake or not. It's more likely because you didn't follow precisely each and every one of The Thirteen Rules for Authentication Requests... I'm surprised you haven't been chastised for not stating more reasons for your concerns (other than "it doesn't exactly match anything in Forvm Fakes").

Maybe there haven't been any opinions aired simply because for your particular coin, only an in-hand examination will suffice.

 

they don't like to be wrong (they're not like me => they don't know everything)

 

They are too busy being masters of ancient coins to respond to the thread of a peasant

(End sarcasm)

 

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