Bing has a rat, I have a bug

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by rrdenarius, Oct 14, 2015.

  1. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    TV167 Baldwins 10.13.15.jpg
    Most of my RR collection is silver, but it is getting more difficult (read as expensive) to keep adding coins I do not have. I am considering how to proceed. Continue with RR silver (some of them look stunning), or go for the older and more import restricted cast bronze. This week I have done both.
    Central Italy Cast Sextans
    Mint - Tuder, Umbria
    Minted 220 - 200 BC
    O - Cicada (or fly) & 2 dots
    R - Trident Vt & 2 dots (Haberline shows 3 forms of the second letter)
    T&V - 167 (161 for heavier series)
    V - 226
    Syd AG - 225
    HNI - 49
    Haberline Plate 81, 23 - 26
    Garrucci - Plate LV, 9

    I posted my fly coin on my blog -
    http://rrdenarius.blogspot.com/2015/10/a-cast-coin-from-umbria-tuder-tv-167.html
     
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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    what does this coin look like in very high grade ?
     
  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Hmm, a cicada eh? I believe you, I think. Only joking.
    Now I have to go look for this one.
     
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  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Nice one, rrdenarius!

    The OP coin is about as high-grade as these get.
     
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  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Looks great - these are cast coins, as the OP mentioned, so they will never have the sharp features of a struck coin.
     
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  7. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Love it... there's something appealingly atavistic about these Italian cast coins.
     
  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    mmmm, an ancient cast coin with a bug on it (it's a total winner!!) ... I'm jealous

    :rolleyes:
     
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  9. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Very cool piece RR, you have a nice blog. :cool:
     
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  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Atavistic. There's a word I once learned and have long forgotten. Thanks for the reminder. A great word for the collector of ancients.
     
  11. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    THESE cast coins will never have the sharp features of a struck coin due to how they were cast. Cast coins can have incredibly sharp and intricate figures, depending on how they were cast. ;)
     
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  12. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Very cool and interesting piece, JA (EDIT: AKA rdenarius):rolleyes:

    Hmmm, I wonder if this surge in interest for coins of the very early Roman era is the consequential influence of that well known RR enthusiast, 'Alegandron'? I even have a few types pending on bid.

    You 'guys' are a bad influence on each other and especially on ME!!;)
     
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  13. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    It's not my coin. But maybe the OP will send it to me? Do you know something I don't?
     
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  14. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Oops, Did it again...switching between websites and otherwise trying to muti-task appears to be talent I haven't come close to achieving.:shame:

    My apologies 'rdenarius':D
     
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  15. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    neat RRD...new to me, i wasn't familiar with the type at ll. i look at acsearch under "umbria", they have all sorts of cool cast stuff....frogs, dogs, seed pods...pretty neat. i would have thought them tesserae of some type.
     
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  16. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I'm feeling itchy all over. 'Bugs'.........owwwww. Rats I can deal with (cyanide). Bugs, bug the hell out of me......there's just so danged many of them......they're poised to rule the planet.
     
  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Naw, not cyanide for rats... Prescription WARFARIN (COUMADIN)... the blood thinner for Heart Issues, also known as Rat Poisoning... :)
     
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  18. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    Thurlow and Vecchi's book on Italian cast money is inexpensive and shows lots of coins. I also like the Haberline download - http://gallica.bnf.fr/Search?ArianeWireIndex=index&p=1&lang=FR&q=Haeberlin
    I think this is the first one of these I have seen at auction. I have seen the sleeping dog one from Tuder, but have not bid on it yet.
     
  19. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Very impressive! I have been collecting cast and struck Roman coinage for a while now, and have never seen one with a fly:joyful:; I like it! And I appreciate you starting this thread, since it gives me an opportunity to show off my cast quadrans with a boar.
    Vecchi 11001.jpg Vecchi 11002.jpg
    Roman cast quadrans 280-269 BC, Rome mint
    Obv: Boar running left, three pellets below
    Rx: Boar running right, three pellets below
    Ref: Italian Cast Coinage (new Vecchi) 36, T&V 11, RRC 18/4, Syd 18,54, SR545,
    AE aes grave quadrans 89.92gm - 42 mm

    [now Steve, before you even get started...I am well aware there are 2 boars on this coin:smuggrin:]
     
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  20. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I want one :( :D
     
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  21. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

    D-Con rat chow seems to work best for me,has a new formula for the resistant species and gets the tree rats too!
     
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