What would cause these spots?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by cooper, Oct 5, 2015.

  1. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    The eraser material is suppose to be non-abrasive as they are designed to absorb graphite/pencil markings into the 'crumbs'. However, I seriously doubt the marks on this coin are such, so particles of the material that is causing the question, could be removed , but adhere to the vinyl and scratch the surface as the eraser is swiped over other areas. Not sure, but it seems an unnecessary chance. I suspect water may have been tried, but 90% alcohol from Walmart would be my second try, then acetone, and after all fail, a 1:10 dilution of Ez-Est :water dip. This slows the reaction down and doesn't easily overshoot the endpoint. It looks shallow, like a stain to me.
     
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  3. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    This is a quote from one of my previous post on this subject.

    " I have removed "carbon" spots with an eraser. Never use pink rubber eraser though as most have abrasives in them, namely pumice. The white vinyl works fine though. If you use a draftsman's eraser shield and use a hole the size of the spot, you would have to know exactly where it was to find it. On a blast white coin, you can't, but on a toned coin it leaves a clean spot, more the reason for the eraser shield."
     
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2015
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Hommer, what the guys are trying to tell you is that rubbing a coin with anything, it doesn't matter what "the thing" is, even your vinyl eraser, will damage the coin. And yes that damage can be seen.
     
  5. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    I understand what they are saying and understand why they are saying it. In my opinion, a black carbon spot on a coin, if it hasn't damaged it already, will soon enough. Eye appeal alone has significantly dropped its value. The same can be said of dipping it in an acidic solution. I had much rather have a coin where you may or may not see where a spot was removed, than a coin that's entire surface was stripped. I bought a MS 64 Peace dollar from a member on here, that because it had developed a carbon spot under the slab, he was willing to sell it below cost. I removed that spot and there is not a single collector on this board, other than he and I, who can find where it was.
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You may not think so, but I guarantee you there are many who can. And no I don't mean in a picture. But in hand, absolutely.
     
  7. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    How many more will know that it has been dipped?
     
  8. Stephan77

    Stephan77 Well-Known Member

    Wasn't there a black & white movie made in the 1950's, starring Bela Lugosi, about a mad scientist attempting to clean a coin? I may be mistaken. :vamp:
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    If a coin is dipped properly, there is no way to tell, visually, that it has been dipped. You can however deduce that an older coin has been dipped by using deductive reasoning, but that's the only way you can tell.

    No sniffer, no machine, no loupe, no anything can tell you.
     
  10. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    If anyone would know here it would be @willieboyd2
     
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