What Grade do you think this is 1884-CC

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  1. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    It isn't graded so I can't do a GTG, but what do you think it would grade?
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  3. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I'll call it a lustrous 64. The cheek is remarkably clean for a 64, but the scrapes in the obverse field really kill the grade. (If you submitted it, you may get a 64+, based on the strength of the rest of the coin).

    With this coin, you'll get several guess at 63 (because people will see the scrapes and overweight them), and you'll get several guesses at 65 (because people will see the rest of the very attractive coin and underweight them). Knowing the proper balance and how each component of grading affects (or should affect) the overall score is the key to grading.

    This is, of course, assuming the pictures accurately represent the coin.
     
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  4. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    Thanks, the cheek really gets you. I knew it has to be a at least 64, but I can see why that might be as high as it goes.
     
  5. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    Solid 64 in my opinion.
     
  6. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Very nice 64 , way better than my GSA '84-CC .
     
  7. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    I think TPG graders give Morgan dollars a lot of leeway when it comes to bag marks. I would be very surprised if your dollar doesn't receive MS-65.
     
  8. charlietig

    charlietig Well-Known Member

    I'll go 64 as well.
     
  9. WLH22

    WLH22 Well-Known Member

    Very nice looking CC. I would be in the upper end of the 64 price range if I were buying it.
     
  10. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    64 beautiful Morgan.
     
  11. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Not ALL Morgan dollars get "preferred treatment" but most GSA dollars do. I'm with Jason.....64.

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  12. ChangeinHistory

    ChangeinHistory Active Member

    I'm in the 64 crowd
     
  13. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    Here's an MS-65. Does it appear significantly different than the Op's coin?

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  14. WLH22

    WLH22 Well-Known Member

    Very similar but I would say the reverse on this new one is better. My eyes see very similar obverse marks. I have a handful of graded GSA's, but would gladly add either of these to the collection.
     
  15. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Yes, it does. The entire rest of the coin is very similar - but this one doesn't have the large scrapes in teh obverse field (in front of her face). There are some minor marks there, sure, but not to the same extent.
     
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  16. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Don't think the OP's coin is close to 65. I would say mid grade 64, as it has the typical CC bagginess. Some of the bag marks are long and in a prominent place (in the area above the nose). That would result in a lower grade just for that, even given TPG liberalness on CC dates.
     
  17. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    MS64 and might get a CAC sticker at that grade.
     
  18. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I'm seeing MS63. Yeah, that mark in front of her face hurts her.
     
  19. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

  20. superzimm

    superzimm Well versed collector

    Guess I'm gonna be in the vast minority going with a -63.....maybe 63+
     
  21. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Yup, it sure does. I said 64, mid level 64, but it could easily be lower due to the prominent bag marks on the left hand side of the obverse--TPGs do not go gem grade with nicks that deep or long. 63 could work just as well.
     
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