Roman Series - First of my twelve Caesars. Julius Caesar

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  1. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    3 Caesars of this condition is already a premium to find. Mine are not close
     
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  3. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I might as well post a Claudius and a Nero example before I go off-line:
    claudius obverse.jpg claudius reverse.jpg DSCF0508.JPG DSCF0509.JPG
     
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  4. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I have a few to contribute...
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  5. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    More! More! :happy:
     
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  6. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Guys... just remember when you finally see the Twelve Caesars Clock on sale, you heard about it here first :D.

    Here are all of mine on a 'tray'...

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  7. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Very eye pleasing group Z
     
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  8. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    :jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop:.

    Now that's a superb tray..
     
  9. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I just want to say it's half past Nero's as...
     
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  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I've been informed that my Tiberius is a fake. I've had it for years, thus I am looking for a reasonably priced replacement. Otherwise, here is my set of the 12 in silver:
    Twelve Caesars.jpg
     
  11. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I must admit, I never tire of seeing all those that the 'gang' has collected and posted here and on every other thread.....
     
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  13. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    Any chance you could post an individual picture of your counterfeit tiberius (obverse & reverse) in higher resolution? It might be instructive for others on this site.

    Also, how did you learn it was counterfeit?
     
  14. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Actually, a couple months ago, one of the newer members identified it as fake (sorry, I don't recall who it was). But, sure enough, when I checked on the fake reports, it is a match. Here it is:
    Tiberius 3.jpg

    Now I'm in the market for a "real" Tiberius silver. If anyone has one at a decent price, please PM me.
     
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  15. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    This is a pretty good fake. If I were to be able to spot it as a counterfeit, the giveaway would be the artificial smoothness of the fields on both the obverse and reverse. Compare this coin to a genuine one (second one, below) and note that while the condition is roughly equivalent, the second coin's fields (and the cheek on the obverse) just are a little bit rougher:

    Bing's coin:
    Tiberius 3.jpg

    Genuine coin:

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    I'm not sure that I would have spotted this though, at least not without holding the coin in hand.
     
  16. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    It's almost impossible to spot without having a reason to suspect otherwise....and only after knowing it was a fake could I definitely say the coin looks 'off' while already noting the unusual 'smoothness'----Sometimes style, wear, and weak strikes have the same effect(s).
     
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  17. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I mentioned I needed to upgrade my modest examples of Augustus and so I just did---the well-known bust of Augustus with the Caius and Lucius reverse. Actually, this helps me fill the album hole where Augustus' grandchildren and intended heirs should be and I have a few others on bid that might go through.

    This denarius was on sale at Forum and has a distinctive and/or scarce marking.....Can anyone guess what it is???

    Augustus and Gaius and Lucius denarius with X.jpg
     
  18. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    The only thing I see is the "X" in the central field. Here is mine with the "pd" formation rather than the "b9" formation.
    Augustus 5.jpg
     
  19. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Exactly right Bing---but Forum doesn't elaborate on it...Does it mean a special control mark or what?? Or is it some kind of denomination mark?

    All they say is..."The X on the reverse, above the shields, is only present on a very few small percentages of coins of this type."
     
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  20. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I have no idea. I went through my sources and some on-line sources, but I could find no explanation.
     
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  21. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Thanks for the effort Bing. Perhaps I'll hear from Forum with some clue to what it means---if anything LOL
     
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