1893 German East Africa 2 Rupien- help grading please...

Hello wonderful people!!
I wondered if I could have some opinions on a grade for this. I am new to grading- until recently it hasn't come into my thinking, I have been happy collecting and learning mostly for historical interest. It has, however, come to my attention after browsing this forum (which is a veritable fountain of knowledge) that this makes a large difference, especially for valuing, selling or insuring coins in my possession. This is one of the better ones, and I would be grateful for suggestions on a grade and the features and reasons behind this rating. I would be grateful if possible for a British equivalent to the suggested US grade, as I suffer a little (a lot of) confusion when comparing the two scales. I have done my best with the photos, my apologies that they are not of a good standard- I have no camera stand as yet and it is currently dark in the UK, so pics are taken in unnatural light. I hope they are good enough to serve the purpose.
Thank you so much for your time,
Rich

 

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There is no need for a British equivalent grade for this coin.
It is "Fine"
However this dated coin is one of the most counterfieted coins on the market.
The actual number struck was 33,000.
I strongly recommend a simple silver test be done, a Rare Earth Magnet will give you instant results without damaging the coin, there are many youtube video instructions on how to do this.
Then a gram scale weight check. it should weigh 23.32 g, any more and it is a fake, any less than 22.95 and it is debatable.

 

Sorry Rich, but it looks harshly/improperly cleaned and is not gradable :-(

I would say F or low VF (details) at best.

Comparison Sheldon / UK grades:
http://www.coingradingservices.co.uk/?page=about_cgs_grading

 

Thank you so much for your input- the coin looks and feels right in hand, the weight shows as 23.3g- as close as I can get on the scales I have. I don't have a magnet to test with I'm afraid. I really appreciate your inputs- it is as I suspected, but of little importance pertaining value as I paid very little for the coin- I value your opinions greatly, and can hopefully apply the same knowledge to other coins now. As I say, up until now I have not given a lot of thought to values and grades, but I will be sure to share any finds which may be worthy of your expert attention. Thank you again for taking the time to educate me.

 

I would say: both these coins are VF.

 

I'd say the first one is EF and the second one is about VF. British collectors tend to be less cleaningophobic than US collectors and we have no third party graders to quibble about what can happen to a coin in 100 years. I think davey was a bit pessimistic.
The fist one shows minimal but definite signs of wear on the highest places, the second displays overall wear with just about no loss of the finer detail.

 

What about CGS?

 

They only grade English Milled Coins struck from 1660.
There is only 185 of their slabs for sale on eBay.uk as I type and most of those are by one dealer and non are selling.
It will never catch on.

 

It will never catch on.

I sincerely hope so.