You finally made me do it!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Collecting Nut, Sep 18, 2015.

  1. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    As I said before, we medievalists hate the term.
     
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  3. Daniel Jones

    Daniel Jones Well-Known Member

    You had an interesting observation on the "Dark Ages" I have not heard before. You could be accurate, but what about the Renaissance? Where does that fit into your description?
     
  4. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I would like to thank everyone that took the time to respond to my thread. It has been interesting and it's been a learning experience. A lot of good information has been provided and that will be documented with this coin. I love the examples and other coins that were posted too. From the comments, I may have overpaid slightly as I paid $105.00. Even so, it was worth it. I liked the coin and I bought something I had no knowledge of so it was worth the price. It has been professionally graded so I was comfortable in making the purchase. The main thing is, it's not a fake, it's the real thing and it's silver. I love silver. It's shiny. lol :) Again, thank you for you comments. I'm not sure what my next Ancient will be but I will buy another.

    I have to ask and I may be sorry that I did but why do so many of you fellow collectors refer to this as The Dark Side?
     
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  5. Daniel Jones

    Daniel Jones Well-Known Member

    Personally, if I were to suggest your next ancient coin purchase, I would suggest a Tetradrachm from 4th-2nd century B.C. because many of them have beautiful art work on them, and many are surprisingly affordable, even in XF condition.
     
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  6. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    I'm not sure I follow Daniel. People often use 'the dark ages' to mean the time period roughly from 500-1000. It's a time period which lacks primary source evidence (that which is written in the time period) primarily because of the disintegration of the Western part of the Roman Empire, and the reduction of literacy which accompanied it. With few sources, some have termed it "dark" (there's a "dark ages" for Ancient Greece too, with the fall of the Macenaeans and before the Polis becomes fully formed).

    Since this is 500-1000, I, not sure how the Renaissance fits in
     
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  7. Daniel Jones

    Daniel Jones Well-Known Member

    My apologies, I thought you said 500-1500. Yes, I just checked your post. You did say 500-1500. I suppose you just had a typo.
     
  8. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    500-1500 for Middle Ages/medieval. 500-1000 for early Middle Ages (which some call 'dark ages')
     
  9. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    Sorry for the short response earlier - I had a short break in class. Historians (not necessarily numismatists) tend to split the Middle Ages up into three periods - Early (the so-called 'dark ages') from 500-1000, High Middle Ages 1000-1300, Later Middle Ages (sometimes lumped in with Renaissance) 1300-1500 (or 1600 if you include Renaissance).

    Ultimately, all of the periodization is pointless, as a previous poster stated, because people didn't wake up one day and say "okay, time to be medieval!" It's just a useful tool for us historians to break up chunks of time.
     
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  10. KIWITI

    KIWITI Well-Known Member

    Yeah, and numismatically you can differentiate ages in different parts too. For example, Charlemagne and his monetary reform, or the introduction of the Gross Tournois.
     
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  11. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    mmmm, Charlemagne ... I still haven't scored one of those pricey lil' sweeties!!
     
  12. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I may be wrong but I think it's because these coins are not as widely collected as U.S. and when you go the coin store you don't see many books or coins. Think my last LCS had a couple red boxes full of ancients and a few expensive ones out of the red boxes.

    And dark side sounds cool and then you can use cool Star Wars pictures like this:

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  13. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    yup, you nailed it!!

    Dark-Side-of-the-Moon 1.jpg dark-side-of-the-moon 3.jpg dark-side-of-the-moon 4.jpg darth binger.jpg


    :rolleyes:
     
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  14. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    We refer to ourselves as the Dark Side because we are so much different from Modern collectors. We buy coins not necessarily for their value on the market, but for the history. And we handle our coins like one might handle pocket change. Bottom line is that we are just different, the opposite of other collectors, so why not yin and yang. The force has two sides. We wear the badge of the dark side with honor.
     
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  15. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I hate to tell you all this but I can't pronounce the names. It's a good thing we do this in writing because you'd either faint or strangle me for me pronunciations. o_O
     
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  17. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

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  19. Daniel Jones

    Daniel Jones Well-Known Member

    I must admit, some of you ancient collectors know far more about ancient, Medieval, and Sassanian history, so I dare not get into an argument with any of you. Ha, ha!
     
  20. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    It's all good Daniel! What is your focus anyway? Have YOU joined the Dark Side yet?
     
  21. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    :D

    Last summer I went to my first coin show (not counting coin shows when I was a child). All of my ancient numismatic camaraderie had been solely online... I had no idea how to pronounce anything (Ag-uh-thō-kuls is not correct :oops:). I scrambled to learn proper voicing of many Greek and Roman names and places so as to not embarrass myself at the ANA World's Fair of Money.

    The most shocking of all was learning the correct pronunciation of drachm. It's "dram"!

    Turns out that there are as many pronunciation variations as there are collectors and dealers :rolleyes:. You can find various pronunciation guides online but they too are inconsistent. While I felt more confident having a clue about how to say various names, no one would have laughed if I'd completely butchered the words. Or, at least not to my face :D.
     
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