Historical Side Note

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by 19Lyds, Sep 19, 2015.

  1. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Here's something that you may or may not find interesting.

    My 2 Kennedy Sets arrived while I was in San Diego and I opened them when I returned home yesterday evening.

    I've always thought that the Reverse Proof manufacturing method looked terrible on the Presidential Dollars and I've never been afraid to express those thoughts. However, yesterday, the Kennedy Coin looked somewhat appealing. The Reverse, in particular, caught my eye under the florescent light of the kitchen.

    A few years back I had purchased a bunch of old CoinAge Coin Magazines for the period of time of the introduction and production of the new Eisenhower Dollars. Quite frequently, I'd sit in the library and read about the new large Silver Dollar and the speculation revolving around the coin. A week or so back, I pulled out a CoinAge from May of 1969 and was reading the article titled "What will our New "Silver" Dollar Look Like?"

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    Within that article were opinions expressed by current numismatic notables such as Felix Schlag (1891-1974). Also within the article were artistic renderings of what some would like to see.

    Last night, my eye caught the following:

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    Atop the image in the magazine that caught my eye is the reverse of the Kennedy Presidential Dollar.

    Is this weird or what?
     
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  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    That's cool.
     
  5. charlietig

    charlietig Well-Known Member

  6. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    The word 'cool' has long since lost any meaning whatsoever, since it is applied without a moment's thought to absolutely anything from the Grand Canyon to an oddly shaped pebble.

    Use of this cliche should be restricted to those occasions when a child proudly brings you some utterly unexceptional object and you can't think of anything else to say.
     
  7. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    If you have nothing to say, please, feel free to say it.
     
  8. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

  9. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    If you have nothing to say, please feel free to say it.

    Should that ever occour, I will of course do so, comforted and encouraged by your permission.

    Until then I will continue to protest the use of cliches as a substitute for considered communication.
     
  10. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Thank you. I'll be sure to ask your permission before using the word again.
     
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  11. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    OK, then. From now on, only the Queens English here on CT.
     
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  12. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I find it a real shame that after winning the contest for the new design of the Jefferson nickel that Schlag design was poo pooed! That would of made our coinage more appealing . His art deco design was what should of been.
    I see it more and more that our coinage is tired,and needs a change. More so back to the retro designs of yesteryear designs or at least something that is new and fresh.
     
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  13. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Does it say who the artist was who drew that concept?

    It's entirely probable that the designer of the reverse of the dollar, Don Everhardt, drew inspiration from previously submitted designs.

    I'm going to call that cool, and I don't care who cares.
     
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  14. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Whatevs. :rolleyes:
     
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  15. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    Finding these kinds of connections in the hobby really cool.

    I also think all you guys who found this post cool, are also very cool yourselves. I think this forum is really cool. Coin collecting is cool. Ike dollars are really cool. Old coin magazines are cool. Reverse proofs are cool and JFK was cool.

    I think people who think they are better than others, simply based on the highly elevated opinions of themselves, and only reply to forum posts in an attempt to prove their elevated opinions of themselves are extremely un-cool.
     
  16. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    It looks like a copy, wow.
     
  17. Whipps

    Whipps Well-Known Member

    This comment is cool. And so are oddly shaped pebbles
     
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  18. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Uber cool, what?
     
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  19. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Uber is cool if you aren't a taxi-driver.
     
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  20. mlov43

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    Not weird at all, in my opinion. When looking through design sketches from the S. Korean mint, I noticed just how many "rehashed" designs they had.

    For example, the "bending rice-stalks design" of the 50 Won coin (released first in 1972) were first considered in the late 1950s for a 10 Hwan coin, which was never released (below, left). The same design then appeared on a 5 Won pattern coin in 1966 (center), which was also not adopted for the final design, (and instead featured the 16th Century Joseon Royal Navy's "turtle ship"). Only when the 50 Won coin was released did this SAME exact design get put on a circulating coin (right).
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  21. mlov43

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    I think it would be interesting to find other proposed designs that got featured in COINage and other numismatic publications over the years to see just how many of those were rehashed later. I suspect we may find a few...

    That Liberty design is not just eerie. I mean, really! It's the exact same design, although re-drawn.
     
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