Was this coin whizzed?

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  1. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    Is this coin an S or CC?
    Is this coin an S or CC?
     
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  3. littlehugger

    littlehugger Active Member

    Whizzing usually looks better. It looks like it was scrubbed with steel wool.
    I saw a whizzed Morgan on EBay once. It was gorgeous, but the curved whizz marks were clearly visible in the enlarged pics. Even so, the bid was up in the $500 range.
    Whizzing is meant to improve the appearance, and that one looks awful.
     
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  4. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Whizzing is a harsh mechanical polishing process which involves the use of a power tool to alter the surface of a coin. Its' goal is not about cleaning; it's about "improving" the overall look of the coin. I consider it an extreme form of polishing, not cleaning.

    The coin here has had an unfortunate and accidental encounter with a brush or similar. There is no evidence in any of these images of a condition requiring cleaning, no hairlines except in the affected area. Chances are it was one swipe of whatever did it.
     
  5. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/whizzed-barber-example.57294/#post-619982

    I've long thought this a good example to use when trying to explain whizzing. Perhaps it can help make your point.
     
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  6. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    The coin is common and got issues and I wouldn't submit it for grading. The systematic scratches make it look like someone took something to it. Just my two cents but don't waste your money submitting it. Spend the money on a coin that is more scarce and problem free. If the coin has problems but very scarce, you may want to just verify it is authentic.
     
  7. mlov43

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    Whizzing. Hmm. I have never seen the actual device/devices used to whizz a coin. I've heard that these brushes(?) were sold in the 1970s and many a sweet, key-date coin was whizzed (ruined) with them.

    Does anyone have images or examples of old ads that promoted these products? I'm not thinking of whizzing a coin, just curious about the history behind this phenomenon.
     
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  8. charlietig

    charlietig Well-Known Member

    Thank you :)
     
  9. olero

    olero Active Member

    No doubt about it, this coin has been abused. Who ever did this should be report to the Numismatic Police.:(
     
  10. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    It's still silver, just hang onto it until silver goes up.
     
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  11. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Depending on its mintmark, silver may need to go on a very wild ride for its junk value to equal out what someone would, unfortunately, pay for it as-is.
     
  12. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Not whizzed but harshly abraded by someone trying to clean it.

    Typically, whizzing is done with a rotary tool with GLASS WOOL, not steel wool as that would remove too many details. I've had 2-3 old time dealers tell me the same thing.
     
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  13. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    A Dremel at 20k RPMs turns the softest worn cotton into a vicious abrasive. Whizzing doesn't require a wire brush.
     
  14. mac266

    mac266 Well-Known Member

    Regardless of the method used, this coin was definitely harshly cleaned. That is one of the most obvious ones I've ever seen. Please do NOT submit this for grading / slabbing, as it would be a huge waste of money and a details grade.
     
  15. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    If you knew it would get Unc Details and not AU Details, it MIGHT be worth considering sending it in, since apparently there's a huge price jump from AU to MS for 1884-S. That said, it looks like it has some wear on the hair above the ear so I think it's AU and not worth grading.
     
  16. charlietig

    charlietig Well-Known Member

    I laugh everytime I see someone say "whizzed" lol
     
  17. Daniel Jones

    Daniel Jones Well-Known Member

    Yeah, it's a funny word, and I am thinking of some thing completely unrelated every time I hear it, if you know what I mean. Ha, ha!
     
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