PCGS told a friend they won't grade this gold token.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Vertigo, Mar 6, 2023.

  1. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    He sent one in like this one and they sent it back ungraded. PCGS told him they don't grade them. He has said he has seen some of these before in PCGS holders. Anyone got any ideas about this?
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  3. Cherd

    Cherd Junior Member

    That is not a PCGS holder, maybe have him try NGC.
     
  4. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    So, PCGS sent it back, and he then sent it to NGC and they graded and slabbed it. Is that right?
    Was there a reason he wanted it in a PCGS slab? Seems like he got it graded by a top TPG, so what's the problem?
     
  5. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    OP said a coin like this, that isn’t his friend’s coin.
     
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  6. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    My understanding is that they were made in the 1900s decade, and there are a variety of different dies.

    Maybe the fact that they are backdated has something to do with it. You should ask PCGS
     
  7. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    I saw an add just last week from a guy still making them.
     
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  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    There are many coins, including various varieties and errors, and tokens, that PCGS will not grade - but NGC, or ANACS, or ICG - will sometimes grade. In other words, sometimes another TPG will grade them, but with some others none of the TPGs will grade them.

    Possible I suppose because they have been known to change their policies regarding what they will grade or not grade from time to time.
     
  9. calcol

    calcol Supporter! Supporter

    They're happy to grade nails though. :) See pic. Cal
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  10. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    At least this was struck with dies from/by the US government. The gold tokens above were made for many decades and backdated by a variety of different people
     
  11. calcol

    calcol Supporter! Supporter

    Well, it was meant as a joke. But the mint and date are unknown. Cal
     
  12. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    No he sent his to PCGS and they are sending it back. The NGC coin is an example. He's going to send it to NGC once it comes back since PCGS won't grade it
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    And they may well grade and slab it. Or, they may not. But not because they don't grade them, but because counterfeits are way beyond common when it comes to Cal tokens. There are far more counterfeits in existence than there are genuine examples.

    Your friend of course may be well aware of that, and that may well be why he wants it graded to begin with.
     
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