Ptolemy IV Mixed Pair...

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  1. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Hello...as I stated earlier, met with my coin friend and captured a couple MONSTER Ptolemy IV AE's. Just hefting the two in my pocket at work today was a work-load!!!
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    Kingdom of Egypt
    Ptolemy IV, 221-205
    AE Drachm, 37.8mm x 5.5mm thick, 42.43g
    Obv: Diademed head of Zeus Ammon r.
    Rev: Eagle standing left on thunderbolt, head right, holding cornucopiae on shoulder...

    LOL, ALMOST dropped this one on Blue...would have KNOCKED her OUT!

    If you think THAT one was a Big and Thick coin...the one coming next is a REAL GENGHIS KHAN!!!
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    Kingdom of Egypt
    Ptolemy IV, 221-205
    AE Drachm, 40.01mm x DUNNO thick, 69.46g
    Obv: Diademed head of Zeus Ammon r.
    Rev: Eagle standing left on thunderbolt


    Love the lathe dimples... AT 69g...over TWO TROY OUNCES... LOL, THIS IS A MONGO OF A COIN!

    I know, I know, y'all want me to free it from the plastic coffin. I will, I will. I think we should all get together and have a: "Raise the Coins from the Dead...Free them from their Coffins PARTY!" Got about a half dozen trapped that need to be freed...
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Fantastic acquisitions! Man I love these large Ptolemy bronzes :)
     
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  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Everyone is gonna have one of these but me, lol. Eventually.

    Nice additions!
     
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  5. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    I'll go as long as you provide the wine:D
    Very nice coins! I suppose that when the Egyptian slingers ran out of stones to sling at the Seleucids they could use their money!
     
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  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Woooooo-hooooo => dem's some bigguns!! (congrats, Alegandalf!!)

    Oh, and I also have a couple of that dude's bobbles ...

    Ahhh, hell => I may as well unleash my whole Ptolemy-esque-ness, eh?

    => Shabammm!!


    Pt-IV
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    Pt-IV
    ptolemy zeus.jpg

    Pt-X
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    Pt-I
    Ptolemy I Elephant man.JPG

    Pt-V
    Ptolemy V.JPG


    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    => man, they sure did love their eagles, eh?!!
     
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  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    OMG yes! I was always amazed with the 17g early Attica Tets... But, THESE monsters could knock out an ARMY as a sling stone!!!
     
  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    @stevex6 Alegandalf!!! LOL, Lovit!!!

    GREAT Coins, StevieX...man, imagine all of these, just on this thread, in a coin bag! LOL, and my Ptolemy I AR Tet with them...would rip out the bottom of the bag!
     
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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Eagles...animals... Yum!
     
  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I love Eagles too.. My High School mascot was the Eagles... So have that natural affinity for them on coins. I agree, The Ptolemaic Dynasty had really cool eagles!
     
  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Thank you everyone for letting me share! I was just blown away by the massive scale of these Ptolemys compared to the denarii that I collect!
     
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  12. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I really like that second one. What a gorgeous plus-sized beauty!
     
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  13. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  14. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Nice! You know you could probably just drop the slabbed one and let the coin free itself :D
     
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  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Yeah, i was bowled over by the weight. I could only find one other at 75g when i did a quick search yesterday. The pic is terrible because of the box. But, the details are very crisp. I have been watching all the threads on tooling... I could not see it on either. I am going to free it.
     
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  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    So, what is the BEST way to free coins from slabs, without a bandsaw? And I want to keep the NGC label and number as an authenticity?
     
  17. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I've cracked open several slabbed coins. The first few were with a hammer. Turn the slab on its long edge and direct the blows along the seam. The junction of the label portion to the lower portion seems to be a good place.

    Most recently, though, I simply used a screwdriver. Wedge it in the little indentations along the edge; press and twist. Repeat at various locations. The seam will split, then wedge the screwdriver into the split; twist.

    A saw is unnecessary, time-consuming, and messy. The screwdriver method poses the least risk of harm, although none of the coins I freed with a hammer suffered any abrasions from the jostling.

    The paper label is not glued down. Just lift it off and put it in the flip.
     
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  18. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I've posted them many times but here they are again. The virtual tray contains 40 gms less than a pound of Ptolemies. I have several more which are not in this picture, so I officially have (more than) a pound of Ptolemies :D

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    Sizes range from 48 mm/91.8 gm (Ptolemy II, top right) to 20 mm/6.8 gm (top right)

    The largest Ptolemy with a 5 mm coin:

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  19. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Wonderful Posts!!!

    I've been 'looking into' grabbing another myself---but with a non-eagle reverse to add to the blend.... I believe I saw one at auction recently...or was that the mixing of wine and beer??

    Al, those are MONSTERS!!!.....But TIF wins the 'biggy' contest---- ? 91.8 grams and 48 mm ??? WOW!!!

    My two remaining examples are mere children compared to most already posted.
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  20. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    THAT is perfect. I have been looking at the slabs, and I was going to try that method as you described. I am glad others have proven it so I do not mess up my first de-slab process!
     
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  21. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    LOL
    LOL, THESE are BURGERS!!! Fat, Thick, Meaty BURGERS! From the old Burger King jingo: "It takes two hands to handle a whopper, you can get your whopper at Ptolemy King!"
     
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