Shield Nickel RPD

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Aidan_(), Jul 11, 2015.

  1. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Howdy all,

    I got this piece from a bargain box at the Summer FUN show. It's got some black gunk on it, should I clean it? And also any thoughts on grade, value, etc...? Reverse pic is kind of bad so I wont post it. close up.png

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    Thanks,
    Aidan
     
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  3. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Clean NO.
    My2cent
    :)
     
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  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It looks like it has environmental damage to me.

    Chris
     
  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    acetone, then leave the rest alone
     
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  6. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    DO NOT CLEAN...
     
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  7. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    RPD...what is that?
     
  8. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    That is an 1869 FS-1869-1304 (005.5) Repunched date with an URS of 4 Fletcher -408 the date is a triple punched with a set of secondary digits to the north and to the east of the primary. The top northern secondary 86 is touching the ball. It is the short fat date variety and the reverse of the 67 hub llc .
    Try a dip as this variety is an $80 in F vf-125. $175 in Xf.
    Nice variety pick up ,I give it a 24 hour soak in acetone , and see if the crud comes off. After that leave it alone . I give it an f vf grade.
     
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  9. An interesting find. Should you clean it? No, because cleaning is a tricky business and should only be done by experts, and if not done properly can reduce a coin's value.
     
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  10. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    You could send it in to NGC for a professional restoration but ...the value would probably remain the same as the condition of being a F -Vf grade may not be worth the increase due to the variety.
    Let's see the reverse
     
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  11. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Thanks Paddy, I cherry picked this show. :D
    I'd hate to mess this up. What's the proper way to soak this coin in acetone?
     
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  12. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Repunched date. :)
     
  13. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Another fact about it it's an R-7 Extra Rare!
    A glass jar with acetone soak 24 hours, dump the old replenish with fresh and soak again. Be careful as acetone is very flammable !!!
     
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  14. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    How long should the second soak last? Should I rinse off in water afterward or just dry it with off with a paper towel?
     
  15. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Soak 24 change acetone to fresh then soak 24 more hours in the fresh. No water pat dry in a soft micro fiber rag . From your images it's hard to tell what the crud is. But in 48 hours two soaks it should get better. If not just leave it.
    Post the reverse image so I can see it.
     
  16. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

  17. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    You did very well, an URS-4 R-7 means maybe 6 to 13 known. As a shield nickel collector I would be off the grid with this find.
     
  18. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    ...Woah, thanks for the info Paddy. :wideyed:
     
  19. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    So now let me rethink the coin going to be restored . Since it's such a rare variety you may want to think about having it looked at before you dip it. As I'm not certain giving it a bath in acetone at this point is the best idea. If I were sure of what the crud is I may give it a try. But since I don't , I say send it in for a conservation . Yes this could cost some bucks,however you may have something that a variety shield collector would be willing to pay for.
     
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  20. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    I think you're right, I'll sit on it for a while. :)
     
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  21. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Question: how can you tell it it's a URS-4 R-7?
     
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