I am upset..

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Detecto92, Jul 9, 2015.

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  1. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    While your email expresses your sentiments, nowhere could I see exactly what "coin" or for that matter what "auction lot" that you were intimidated in returning.

    You should have precisely defined what you were referring to because, quite frankly, an out of the blue email such as this will simply end up in the delete folder.

    Of course your reply is pour Detecto which typically leaves a lot of descriptive information unsaid until it gets questioned. If I were the auctioneer, I would have no idea what you were complaining about and simply dismiss the email as a rant.

    Be specific.
     
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  3. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    It just happened 2 days ago, I'm more than sure he knows what I'm talking about.
     
  4. bsowa1029

    bsowa1029 Franklin Half Addict

    Quarterth!

    Come on man
     
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  5. Tim: Others here might feel differently, but I would not have sent that email to the auctioneer. What's done is done...let it go. If you felt intimidated and it is still bothering you, it would have been better to talk face-to-face with him instead of sending an email. Consider this situation a life lesson learned and one that you will not let happen again. Because you sent the email, you will likely be having a face-to-face with him if you ever go back to that action house again. Good luck with that. Some words of advice: Maintain eye contact, be confident, and don't let your Dad or his friend do the talking.
     
  6. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    I think you were lucky to get the $80.00 for nothing. You should live up to your end of the deal and let it go. this is a waste of time.
     
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  7. harris498

    harris498 Accumulator

    I would not have sent the e-mail either. What is it you hope to gain? Do you feel better?
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    As are most of the posts in this thread, but that hasn't stopped anybody :rolleyes:
     
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  9. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    I love Detecto threads, I wonder how many unique posters we will end up with in this thread. Even Doug is chiming in.

    That boy just has a way to bring us all together.
     
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  10. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    So you did have the coin in your possession and then gave it 'back' in exchange for a check for $80. Regardless of how in'tim'idated you felt afterword you essentially sold the coin back to the guy. I'm curious though what you think is going to occur by dragging the issue out instead of taking the L and moving on? There's no chance your getting the coin back, etc so why risk your future auction attendance in making a huge deal over it?
     
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  11. bdunnse

    bdunnse Who dat?

    LOL...In'Timmah'dated.
     
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  12. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member


    It would of been different if the auctioneer let me keep the coin and asked me to pay $180 for it (what he said it was worth), I still could of made $120.

    I know from working at 3 retail stores over the course of 5 years, if the store screws up, they admit fault and own up to the mistake.

    If I owned a pawnshop and accidentally put a $50 tag on a TV worth $500, and someone bought it, do you think I'm going to call them a day later and ask them to return it? Of course not.

    It was not right, ethical, fair, for the auctioneer to basically act like it was my fault.

    The auctioneer should of just wrote the seller a check for $180, and had been done with it.

    But like I said, it's not the loss of $300 I'm mad over, it's the fact that I was intimidated. The dude pulled me aside and talked to me like he was a cop and I just shot someone in cold blood. It made me really nervous (and I don't get nervous easily), and did not put me in a clear line of thinking.

    I've been wronged and screwed over plenty of times in my life, and even if I get barred from that auction, who cares? I'm not looking for any recourse, I just want to let that auctioneer know what he did was wrong.

    I've been to hundreds of auctions since I was six, at over one dozen different auctioneers, I've seen $500 items sell for $5, but I have NEVER seen an auctioneer walk up to someone and say "I can't pay the seller/estate owner $5 for that item, it's worth more".

    It's an auction, the buyer sets the price, especially if there is not a reserve. Once it's sold it's yours. It's not up the auctioneer to tell someone that an item should of brought more.
     
  13. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    He replied...
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    You are a good young man, and I appreciate your message. We came to an agreement that was fair between us that night. I wouldn't have even known about it, but three gentlemen that were waiting for that coin to come up for auction, asked me when it was coming up. I looked at my ringman, asked him where it was, and then the search continued.

    Many in attendance said that if they had purchased it that way, they would have returned it without any compensation. It was a one-of-a-kind situation, that's for sure.

    Have a nice weekend.
    [​IMG]
     
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  15. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    Really? This is exactly what you're doing. You chose to sell the lot back to the auctioneer for his offer of $80. You agreed to not mention what happened. And yet here you are a day later asking them to return it and going back on your word.
     
  16. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    I'm not asking for the coin back. Like I said it's not about money at this point, it's the feeling of being wronged.
     
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  18. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

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  19. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    Your letter to the auctioneer didn't ask for anything. It was just a rant that likely lowered his opinion of you. If that's not what you were going for, I strongly suggest you approach this in a different way.

    What is it you want to get? Is there an outcome here that would satisfy you?
     
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  20. charlie123

    charlie123 Well-Known Member

    Be a UPS loader?
     
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  21. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    This is what I wrote in reply:
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    Well first of all, I would like to say I am sorry for my initial message, I was just blowing off steam out of frustration. On the other side of the coin (so to speak) I would be upset too if I was waiting for an item to come up and find out later it was misrepresented. You are correct, it is a rare occurrence for something like that to happen. If I might ask, what will happen to the coin, is it going back to the estate, or will it be auctioned off in the future? I was interested in the coin, and if you would of offered, I would of paid you what you said it was worth ($180). Initially, I felt bad that I did not get to keep the coin, but the more I think about it, I can see how it could cause some feelings of resentment between you and the estate or between you and the people who were interested in the coin. I hope I did not cause too much anger on your part, and hope that this does not hinder me from attending your auctions in the future. I've been to a lot of different auctioneers, and you and your associates seem to do a good job of sorting items out, and personally you seem very quick and through with your auctions. A lot of auctions I go to can drag out into 7-8 hours long, or they don't do a good job of sorting the items out before putting them out for auction.
     
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