On The Square

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  1. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Top Coin: Western European AR Millaresa
    AR, NM,ND 19 mm x 20 mm x 1.17 grams

    Bottom Coin: Almohad Muwahid Dirham
    AR,NM,ND 13.8 mm x 14.0 mm x 1.40 grams

    DirhamvsMillarese.jpg
     
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  3. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    We all can't forget about the Trifecta! A,B and C!!:eek:
    Top to Bottom:

    Chandragupta Maurya 322-293 BC Grandfather

    Bindusara Maurya 293-272 BC Father

    Ashoka Maurya 272-232 BC Son

    TrifectaofIndianKings_opt.jpg
     
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  4. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    And now for something different, an overstruck Byzantine follis. They told it it could be anything it wanted to be when it got overstruck, and it wanted to be a square. It unfortunately failed but it does have 4 distinct points, even if it's a little rounded between them:
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    Byzantine Empire, Heraclius, 610-641 AD, AE Follis(40 Nummi), Constantinople mint.
    OBVERSE: No legend. Heraclius, crowned and in military attire, with moustache and long beard, holding long cross, on left and Heraclius Constantine, crowned and wearing chlamys, with short beard, holding cross on globe and scepter, on right, both standing facing.
    REVERSE: Large M, ANNO to left, Gamma (third officina) underneath, uncertain regnal year to right, CON in exergue.
    Overstruck on: Byzantine AE Follis, Nicomedia mint, uncertain obverse.
    REVERSE: Large M, ANNO to left, cross above, regnal year I or II? to right, NIKO in exergue
     
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  5. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    India
    Gupta Empire
    Kumaragupta I (414-455)
    Western Provinces
    AR Drachm 12 mm x 2.09 g
    Obverse: Formal Bust of KumaraGupta I right.
    Reverse: Garuda facing with wings spread. Brahmi script-Parama-bhagavata rajahiraja-Sri Kumara Gupta. Mahendraditya
    ref:Mit.ACE 4845
    KumaraGupta414-455AD.jpg
     
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  6. wmichael

    wmichael Active Member

    Any idea what the Rev. markings are? I lust this coin, by the way.
     
  7. wmichael

    wmichael Active Member

    zumbly, this is the 1st. ancient square I ever saw when I was a child. It started my interest in them, I have remembered it for 60 years. Thanks.
     
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  8. wmichael

    wmichael Active Member

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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Homer says... "MMmmmm, ANIMALS.... me like..."
     
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  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Now...I.AM.CONFUSED: Why couldn't that be FATHER-SON-GRANDSON... my mind is spinning...
     
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  12. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    :D. I think I understand... maybe. Chandragupta Maurya, Grandfather (of Ashoka Maurya?), Bindusara Maurya, Father (of Ashoka Maurya?), Son (of Bindusara Maurya?). Or is Chandragupta Maurya the grandfather of Bindusara Maurya? :confused:
     
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  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Naw...from the perspective of the First King: MY progeny are SON and GRANDSON! :) I AM THE KING! :) They can be Kings LATER!
     
  14. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Knitpickers! Ashoka is probably the only Mauryan king people would recognize. Unless you followed the exploits of Seleukos Nikator.
     
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  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Chandragupta! Kicked the Eastern Satrapies of Alexandros' legacy! :)
     
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  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I.AM.CONFUSED... is it KNITpickers or NITpickers.... :D
     
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  17. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    I do not understand the nuances of the reverse marking(s). It was struck against an anvil & the localized reverse marking(s) may just be random artifacts. Ancientnoob has a similar 5 shana coin. I don't believe his coin reverse has anything resembling the artifacts seen on my reverse. His coin does have some Cupro deposits which I believe make his look quite genuine & pleasing to the eye.

    AN- Please post your rectangular Buddha silver.
     
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  18. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Here is the ANoob coin & my coin. I swiped the photos from another CT thread.
    ANBud2.JPG DHBud1.jpg
     
  19. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Collect89: Amazing-amazing specimen! I am fascinated that it was also issued by the Prince that became the Enlightened One! Fascinating! Are these readily found?
     
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  20. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    ju0090bb1599.jpg Most square coins are square because their makers wanted them to be square. I always wondered why this Alexander Jannaeus Widows Mite was struck on such a rectangle. The dies were round. When you don't care, anything is possible.
     
  21. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Being in manufacturing for so long... Did they roll out the fabric (metal) into sheets, cut them into strips, then punched their design / cut the squares as they went? Fast economical process for low-cost / low denomination coinage?
     
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