EUBOIA Histiaia Tetrobol with decent detail & toning

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  1. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    EUBOIA 197-146 BC
    AR Tetrobol
    1.88 grams, 13.5 mm
    Obv: Head of Nymph Histiaia facing right with hair rolled & wreathed w/ vine
    Rev: IΣT I AIEΩN Nymph Histiaia seated rt. on stern of galley holding a naval standard
    Grade: ???
     

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  3. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    This is coin #2 of my 4 NEWPS. Again, all I needed to do was weigh it, measure it, & it was relatively easy to find in the Sear book.

    In my newbie opinion, this Tetrobol has decent eye appeal (and the price was OK for me). I’ve known the coin dealer for a bunch of years & it’s always a pleasure doing business with him. He is not a knowledgeable ancient dealer and I am learning about ancients one coin at a time (This is potentially a dangerous combination I think).

    Here is what this coin has taught me so-far today:

    EUBOIA is the large island territory just Northeast of Athens Attica. This coin was possibly minted at Histiaia which is located at the far north end of the large Euboia Island. Apparently, Histiaia began minting coinage in the mid-4th Century BC. I understand that there was a lot of shipping commerce in the area and this particular coin design was somewhat prolific. According to the Sear book there are numerous imitations with poor style & rough execution of this silver Tetrobol which may have been produced in Macedon prior to 168 BC. My example appears to be similar to Sear 2496 [& maybe it is one of the imitations mentioned in the Sear book?]. I hope you ancient folks will let me know what you think about this one.

    FWIW, the coin dealer’s holder had 197-146 BC written on it. I don’t know how this date-range was determined. I’m sure this date data trickled-down from wherever he got the coin.
     
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  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Doug had told me these are heavily faked. Took a dealer who specializes in these to confirm/convince him mine was real, lol.
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    Histiaia, Euboia
    340 - 330 B.C.
    Silver Tetrobol
    O: Head of nymph Histiaia right wearing an earring, hair bound in sakkos (sphendone) wreathed with vine
    R: Nymph seated upon a stern of galley holding a mast with cross-piece (trophy stand), grapes on vine to left; wing on prow; IΣTIAI-EΩN
    14mm
    2.4g
    BMC Central Greece p.127, 24-25; Sear 2495

    Slightly overstruck. Die break on nose.
     
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  5. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Almost forgot-

    THANKS FOR LETTING ME SHARE & I look forward to your grade opinion(s).
     
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  6. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Collect. I looked at the Forvm fake reports and could not find a fake match for you coin. This coin is highly faked, but I have every reason to believe you coin is the real Mccoy. VF+ All day.

    BTW- These are usually given a blanket date of 3 - 2nd century BC.
     
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  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I have stayed away from these because of the faking problem. I like the looks of them, but I'm afraid I will not be able to tell the real from the fake. I hope your coin is real. It is a nice looking coin.
     
  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow, amazing coin!! (somehow, I missed this one last night)

    :eek:
     
  9. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Sweet Greek pardner. My example.
    IMG_3918.jpg IMG_3919.jpg
     
  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Mat => man, that's a great ancient nose!!

    :nice-smile:
     
  11. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    ^Thats what attracted me to it as well as the main thing of making it not a fake.
     
  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Matt, I think that must be Jimmy Durante's sister (ok, YNs. Go ahead and ask).
     
  13. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Lol, most comments are its a clown nose.
     
  14. Revamping an old thread with my example
    Euboia Tetrobol.png
    Head of nymph Histiaea right, wreathed with vine / IΣTI-AIEΩN, Nymph Histiaea seated right on stern of galley, holding naval standard
    2.29g
    14mm

    Reverse is weakly struck, but the obv makes up for it.
    Here's to hoping it's authentic :cigar:
     
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  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    are you sending it away, or merely hoping for a critique?

    ... oh, and I always think they look sweet (great coin & good luck)

    :rolleyes:

    ... I like the gold toning (or is that fourree shining through?)

    :woot:

    => man, this hobby never gets old, eh? (congrats)
     
  16. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I love the style of these coins, but I have stayed away because of the number of fakes identified. Good luck with this one.
     
  17. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Although I recently 'purchased' a fake on bid from Agora, it was acknowledged as such and refunded as credit for further purchase...

    From what i learned of all that is simply that many are fakes, but those I see posted here do not have the 'red-flag' items that denote a modern replica and so I think you all have the genuine article......but definitely have it checked out just to be sure, if you haven't already...

    Ripley's does have one of the warning signs---specifically the hair with the rosette/ball-shaped arrangement---but that is only one of the three or four red-flags.
     
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  18. brassnautilus

    brassnautilus Well-Known Member

    1.88gr seemed light for a tetrobol?

    I see a lot of those "ripley's fake" types from reputable dealers. Who knows...
     
  19. I saw one individual describe his as a "triobol" due to the weight being <2.0gr. I think it was just fake and am not sure if an actual Euboia Histiaea Tetrobol exists in antiquity.

    If genuine, I think it would be worth David's approval; the obverse is strong enough to warrant the expense.

    After looking at the toning under a magnifying glass, I think it's just that. Which I love. Adds a lot of character.
     
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